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Subject: 3rd Printing Card Markings/Damage? rss

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Bart de Groot
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I got 4 cards in my deck that have a faint groove running vertically. It's very faint, but if you hold it right in the light it's very visible in the reflection. It's on both sides of those cards as well. I am still considering how much this is going to bother me... Anyone else got this?
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I have the same issue. I just got the most recent printing of the base game with the 3in box and also the expansion. I am away from my copy but I think I had the problem with both the base game cards and the expansion. (I will check tonight.)

I am curious to find out how pervasive this problem is.

On a related note: I recently got a copy of Sekigahara with some bad blocks (which was a much worse problem than this card problem!). Anyway, GMT was very cool about it and they are sending me block replacements right now. Haven't gotten them yet. Discussion about my block issue:

https://boardgamegeek.com/thread/1647671/color-inconsistency...
 
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BTW, when I get home I will check what cards have the problem and post here what I find.
 
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My cards that have a vertical crease are 18, 77, 78. I also have one card in the recent expansion that has the same crease. The one in the expansion is much less noticeable though.

I don't know if I will request replacements. I don't think the problem is bad enough that I will be able to see it or notice when I play. I will have to check it out in better light.



 
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I also have the same crease on those 3 cards. It looks like a heavy roller or band/cable tie imprint from heavy weight when the card was manufactured.

It isn't too much of a problem for me as I can only see it at certain angles depending on lighting conditions.
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Cabralicus wrote:
I also have the same crease on those 3 cards. It looks like a heavy roller or band/cable tie imprint from heavy weight when the card was manufactured.

It isn't too much of a problem for me as I can only see it at certain angles depending on lighting conditions.


Yeah, I don't think I would notice or be looking for the marking. It is interesting that you have the marks on the same cards though. So it is likely a general problem with many copies.
 
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I just now thought that if anyone uses sleeves there shouldn't be a problem at all.

I don't use sleeves because I am a savage.
 
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Cabralicus wrote:
I just now thought that if anyone uses sleeves there shouldn't be a problem at all.

I don't use sleeves because I am a savage.


Maybe you're talking about opaque sleeves, but I use FFG sleeves, and you can see it with overhead lighting at the right angle.
 
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Cabralicus wrote:
I just now thought that if anyone uses sleeves there shouldn't be a problem at all.

I don't use sleeves because I am a savage.


Haha. Yeah, me too. I don't think I will sleeve this. Life is too short.

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Shuffling is a lot easier without sleeves and I can use a casino riffle shuffle (without the curved bridge most of the time.) I cut the deck in half to make 2 piles and riffle shuffle one deck 3 or 4 times. Take one half (which is really one quarter of the deck and switch it with the second deck) Cut the deck in half again and do the regular shuffle a couple of time to swap top, bottom and middle. Then Riffle shuffle the other deck and repeat as needed.

Riffle shuffle 7 times and you will get the most efficiently properly shuffled deck of cards. If you use the wash method (or smooshing as the YouTube guy calls it ) of laying all the cards on the table and swirling them around you would have to do that for 1 minute to be properly shuffled.

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Ooh, I don't know whether I would dare to subject my unprotected game deck to repeated riffle shuffles...

I mean, these games are precious cultural objects (that probably won't get reprints to eternity) that must also be preserved for the future generations to play and learn from.

Thinking about this now, I almost feel like for the next game of Labyrinth I will have to bring two pairs of cotton gloves for us to wear! surprise
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