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Brandon M
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1) Does it take a worker to train a horse?

I believe the answer is no, based on no worker being mentioned in the horse training section and horse training not mentioned in the worker placement section. My wife has her doubts because the Industrial Improvements section makes a point to state that a worker is not required.

2) Must you train a horse in order to take it to the rodeo?

The only mention of training level of horses is to determine the winner of the rodeo and the level reductions for 2nd place and lower.

I assume that a horse must be at least level 1 since a second place horse is reduced to level 1.

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Jason Brown
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1. No, you need only discard a water token to train your horse.

2. There's no restriction in the rules, so why make one up? I play that all horses are welcome in the rodeo as it says that it's activated for every player that wishes to participate.


Edit: Don't mind me...see below
 
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Murr Rockstroh
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To the OP:
JBMoby wrote:
1) Does it take a worker to train a horse?

I believe the answer is no, based on no worker being mentioned in the horse training section and horse training not mentioned in the worker placement section. My wife has her doubts because the Industrial Improvements section makes a point to state that a worker is not required.

2) Must you train a horse in order to take it to the rodeo?

The only mention of training level of horses is to determine the winner of the rodeo and the level reductions for 2nd place and lower.

I assume that a horse must be at least level 1 since a second place horse is reduced to level 1.

Thanks!

1) No worker required, and you do not need to discard the water unless you're training it two levels.

2) Yes it is required to be trained. On page 8 of the rulebook it says under the Horse Training section (emphasis mine).

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If you have a horse in a training stable and there is water in it, you can discard one apple card to level up your hose (this is necessary in order to compete in the rodeo).
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You can instead level up your horse by two levels. To do so you must pay not only 2 apples instead of one, but you must also remove the water marker from the horse's training stable.


To the previous poster:
MAJBrown22 wrote:
1. No, you need only discard a water token to train your horse.

2. There's no restriction in the rules, so why make one up? I play that all horses are welcome in the rodeo as it says that it's activated for every player that wishes to participate.


This is not entirely correct, see above.
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Brandon M
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Wow. I can't tell you how many times I read that paragraph and missed that parenthetical note.

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Murr wrote:
2) Yes it is required to be trained. On page 8 of the rulebook it says under the Horse Training section (emphasis mine).

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If you have a horse in a training stable and there is water in it, you can discard one apple card to level up your hose (this is necessary in order to compete in the rodeo).
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You can instead level up your horse by two levels. To do so you must pay not only 2 apples instead of one, but you must also remove the water marker from the horse's training stable.

Eh....you COULD read that as "if you don't level your horse, you won't be competitive in the rodeo", and the parenthetical is just explaining what training your horse is good for.

If there's really a restriction that horses entered into the rodeo have to be level 1 or higher, why on earth would that not be listed with the Rodeo rules?
 
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Brandon M
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Chrondeath wrote:
Murr wrote:
2) Yes it is required to be trained. On page 8 of the rulebook it says under the Horse Training section (emphasis mine).

Quote:
If you have a horse in a training stable and there is water in it, you can discard one apple card to level up your hose (this is necessary in order to compete in the rodeo).
...
You can instead level up your horse by two levels. To do so you must pay not only 2 apples instead of one, but you must also remove the water marker from the horse's training stable.

Eh....you COULD read that as "if you don't level your horse, you won't be competitive in the rodeo", and the parenthetical is just explaining what training your horse is good for.

If there's really a restriction that horses entered into the rodeo have to be level 1 or higher, why on earth would that not be listed with the Rodeo rules?


But if level 0 horses are permitted, why is the eventuality of a level 0 second place horse not addressed, and a level 1 horse is?

That bit about dropping a horse to level one suggests to me a minimum to compete (hence my question to start with).

 
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Alberto Abudinen
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Hi, you need to have at least Level 1 to compete in the rodeo.

Thanks for the support

Alberto
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Brandon M
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SpiderOne wrote:
Hi, you need to have at least Level 1 to compete in the rodeo.

Thanks for the support

Alberto


Alberto,

Thanks for the answer and a wonderfully produced game!
 
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Jeff T
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So I have a question on horses and water if anyone is able to answer - the player boards show water printed on them for both horse yards - Are the training stables irrigated or not?

I understand if I want to go up two levels, I would need a wooden water marker present at the training stables, so I can send it back to the board, feed two apples, and train my horse two levels.

But, if I want to feed a horse an apple to raise it from level 0 to level 1, can I do that using the printed on water, or do I need a wooden water irrigation there as well before I can do any training?

At the moment I am assuming that the printed water is sufficient and I can train one level at a time without providing extra water.

Thoughts?
 
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Diego Ali Jimenez Peltroche
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The water printed on the stables are not blue colored... they are there only to let you know where you can put your water if you want to irrigate your stable.

If you check it well, the water drops on the stables are kind of ghostly, while the the water drop next to the printed apple it's colored, indicating that is a "real" water.

Remember that each stable need 1 water, so, if you want to train 2 horses, you will need 2 water, one for each stable (and the apples, of course)
 
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