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Nino Milicic
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Hi dear boardgamers,
I do not undersand how its possible that popularity of this game is so limit! World war I games, with easy way to learn, grand scale, very interesting history period, 2-4 player (unique for this scale), very nice components, clever and simple mehanic.... And no one mention this unique and beauty game. Theres no yt reviews, no tutorials, theres only one unboxing and one ugly quick presentation... And thats all!!! Wtf?!?! Marco do did not mention this game, drive t did not mantion this game... Simply no one!!! Last year when triumph and tragendy came out EVERY ONE TALK ABOUT: "how great we have ww2 campaign game with 9years period that learn very fast and rules are simple, but about lamps- just silence! I went to file task on bgg there is no quick rules, no player shits, no home rules and campain... Simply just errata and cards reviews... Dear people whats going on, this game is so great, have so claver mehanism, easy way for learn, milions of strategy and nobody speak about. How is this possible?
Yes I know that price for this components is simply not normal, but I do no belive that this is reason why everyone run away, And I really want to see that someone will turn on lamps In this ghost island!
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World War 1 is simply not a popular war gaming period as compared to others in the United States where most of these game reviewers reside. It is in keeping with World War 1 not being a popular historical period of interest here in the United States, certainly when compared to Europe. That has of coursed changed with the amount of ww1 games that have come out in recent years, Lamps being one of them. But you just won't get the kind of coverage your hoping for from world war 1 games over here.
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Thanks guys .... we did send a copy to Marco Arnaudo, so I hope he'll do a review soon. But yes, we did notice also that there are no real official reviews yet for the game. Which is weird, because sales apparently have been fantastic and the general feedback has been very, very positive. Patience, I guess.

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I have been giving it run time.

Here is a link to the replay it is ongoing

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It's still pretty new, I'm just punching/sleeving my copy now.

Craig Besinque has a very established reputation, and GMT a bigger presence, so a "gem" like Lamps (as everyone is saying it is) is going to take a bit longer to get noticed. I did a review on T&T, maybe I'll do this one too once I get it played!
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Dear Hermann,
This game is simply fantastic, and I wait for something like this for a years. I really love Paths of Glory, but stream version that can be play in 4h and everyone can understand the rules not only wargamers, simply WOW!

I have only few complaints:
1. Price- I paid for my version 70e, what is way to much!!!
2. For this price I expect mounted board and thicker counters! ( minimum I expect is card board)

That is just my opinion-
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Thanks guys! Kirk deserves a lot of credit for a very original design. A review would be welcomed, Mike. Thank you.

Nino - I'm really sorry about the price but there's certainly nothing we can do about that. We felt the components were of good quality, but I understand that many gamers like mounted boards. As far as the thickness, I'm not sure you'd get much thicker from anyone else unless you're talking about the laser cut counters. Anyway, I just hope you get your money's worth in gameplay fun! God knows I've spent hundreds and hundreds of dollars on games I never play.

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ninomili05 wrote:
Hi dear boardgamers,
I do not undersand how its possible that popularity of this game is so limit! World war I games, with easy way to learn, grand scale, very interesting history period, 2-4 player (unique for this scale), very nice components, clever and simple mehanic.... And no one mention this unique and beauty game. Theres no yt reviews, no tutorials, theres only one unboxing and one ugly quick presentation... And thats all!!! Wtf?!?! Marco do did not mention this game, drive t did not mantion this game... Simply no one!!! Last year when triumph and tragendy came out EVERY ONE TALK ABOUT: "how great we have ww2 campaign game with 9years period that learn very fast and rules are simple, but about lamps- just silence! I went to file task on bgg there is no quick rules, no player shits, no home rules and campain... Simply just errata and cards reviews... Dear people whats going on, this game is so great, have so claver mehanism, easy way for learn, milions of strategy and nobody speak about. How is this possible?
Yes I know that price for this components is simply not normal, but I do no belive that this is reason why everyone run away, And I really want to see that someone will turn on lamps In this ghost island!
Nino


Sorry in Southern California we have been too busy playing and enjoying the game to write anything up
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It's a fantastic game! Maybe Marco hasn't reviewed it because it isn't GMT? whistle
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I played Lamps at GMT this weekend in Hanford. Great game! Can't wait to get it on the table again. I'm planning another session at SD Historical Game Con in November.
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friendc wrote:
It's a fantastic game! Maybe Marco hasn't reviewed it because it isn't GMT? whistle


Well, Fred Manzo footed the bill for a copy of the game and I paid the postage to get it to Marco, so I certainly hope he reviews it! Thanks for all your support on FB too, Chris.

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I played Lamps at GMT this weekend in Hanford. Great game! Can't wait to get it on the table again. I'm planning another session at SD Historical Game Con in November.


Hey David! I'm glad you liked it and it went well at GMT West. I have to get out to that convention one of these days.

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Marco is of my favorite reviewers so I hope he will make a video about this game!
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Hey Nino,

Judging from the chatter on CSW I think there is a pretty good crowd playing "Lamps." For each person posting there are many others playing out there.
From my gaming buddies two have bought the game and are playing it. I'm scheduled for a game this weekend.
WW1 just isn't that popular of a subject, and the buzz will always be a bit lower than WWII.
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But why?? This is part of history, where American roll was so important! This was first USA intervention in Europe, and you have a lot to do with Allies victory in wwI. All nations was so tired- GB, France and Serbia had a lots of moral and equipment problems, and I think that USA was the factor that end this long and brutal war. If I was American, I be pround on that fact. Why you not interesting about this period I can not understand ?!?
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Agreed, Nino.
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This looks like a game I'd love. I'd review it on my Youtube channel, The Discriminating Gamer, but unfortunately cannot afford it at present. I love the WWI theme and from what I hear it's a fantastic game.
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ninomili05 wrote:
But why?? This is part of history, where American roll was so important! This was first USA intervention in Europe, and you have a lot to do with Allies victory in wwI. All nations was so tired- GB, France and Serbia had a lots of moral and equipment problems, and I think that USA was the factor that end this long and brutal war. If I was American, I be pround on that fact. Why you not interesting about this period I can not understand ?!?

Because many older US gamers have fathers, uncles and grandfathers who fought in WWII. WWI was too far back and the US was involved late. WWII involved the whole nation, homefront etc. WWI not nearly as much.
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dumpty wrote:
I played Lamps at GMT this weekend in Hanford. Great game! Can't wait to get it on the table again. I'm planning another session at SD Historical Game Con in November.


David, if you're bringing a copy, I'd love to try it that weekend. Feel free to message me.
 
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ninomili05 wrote:
But why?? This is part of history, where American roll was so important! This was first USA intervention in Europe, and you have a lot to do with Allies victory in wwI. All nations was so tired- GB, France and Serbia had a lots of moral and equipment problems, and I think that USA was the factor that end this long and brutal war. If I was American, I be pround on that fact. Why you not interesting about this period I can not understand ?!?

Sorry for coming to this party late, but as I just got the game, all these threads are new to me!

Anyway, I wanted to add to Chris' excellent reply above, by commenting about the fact that the American population at the time simply didn't care as much about "that war in Europe" in 1914, as they did about the "war that came to our backyard" in 1941. Motivations - and thusly, interest - were very much different between the two wars.

The USA was at the time mostly interested in its own growth and considered the war in Europe to be of no concern. Meaning that most Americans didn't see how the events of, or any outcome of the war, would have any impact them. Thus they generally had no interest in taking part.

It wasn't till the sinking of the Lusitania that the American public took notice. That, and the machinations by Germany to prod Mexico back into a war with the U.S., that the American public finally had a reason to be motivated.

There's lot's of "revisionist" history here, but many believe that Woodrow Wilson was looking for a reason to get involved, as he wanted to spread American democracy into Europe (i.e., be a player in the future of Europe) and assuming victory on the allies' part would enable the USA to be in a better position to dictate terms to Germany upon their defeat. The above two events were exactly what he needed to get America engaged. Despite, the motivations for participating in WWI weren't as close to home as Pearl Harbor came to be.

Thusly WWI wasn't as much a factor in American lives as WWII was - I.e, it wasn't part of our "fabric". In the end, the war never captured our history nor did it leave the sort of impact that WWII left. That, and considering what Chris wrote above, IMHO are the reasons that WWI isn't as interesting to us here, as it is of course in Europe.

I'm a perfect example. I'm north of 50 and never really cared about WWI. My introduction to WWI as a kid was Snoopy and the Red Baron! Then, as an aviation buff, I latched onto the aerial aspects of the war - mostly for the airplanes - and that's where my interest stopped. OTOH, I was VERY much interested in WWII. My father was a WWII buff, and we learned about WWII in school, and when I was young (60s/70's) were when all the classic WWII movies came out.

I'm also interested in the American Revolution. So naturally most of my wargames are of either WWII or the American Revolution. And it wasn't till my early 50s that my wife was watching a special about the U.S. Civil War that I finally developed an appreciation for that war. So I bought several Civil War games.

And now most recently - due to an adult community college course I'm taking on WWII - I've gained an appreciation for the rest of WWI (beyond the airplanes), as the start of WWII very much began at the end of WWI. It's hard to have an appreciation of WWII without understanding the whys and wherefores of WWI. So if it wasn't for the class, I'm not sure that I'd be any closer to appreciating WWI. But anyway, it's due to this new knowledge that I bought "Lamps", in a continued attempt to expand my appreciation of the history of conflict beyond US interests.

Still, I'm in the minority amongst all gamers, which is why you don't see as much material (videos, reviews, aids, etc) for WWI as you do for WWII games.

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If anyone is going to WBC this summer, I am definitely coming and definitely bringing Lamps and would love to play all comers.

If anyone wants to test drive the Vassal, I'm in for that too.
 
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Here's my review for Fields of Despair. Anybody play both this and Lamps? How do they compare?
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