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I have convinced myself that “we” are all “[human] beings” if one may speak of canine, bovine and sea-mammalian “subjectivity”.
There are “just” variations in genetics and “society”.
My “conviction” provokes ideas about “correct” behavior from diet to any residual biosphere on Mars.
Otherwise, I am guided the law (Kentucky Revised Statutes, tribal custom, supplication to my gods, etc.) and a practiced indifference to my “conviction”.

Concerning “our” future…
I am disturbed by the idea that there have been no “profound” scientific discoveries in the last 125 years, not for lack of trying. Everything we presently have is “just” an studied exploration and expansion of what there was to “know” in 1900 (CE).
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George Brinton wrote:
I am disturbed by the idea that there have been no “profound” scientific discoveries in the last 125 years, not for lack of trying. Everything we presently have is “just” an studied exploration and expansion of what there was to “know” in 1900 (CE).


Quantum mechanics? Special and general relativity? Genetics? The entire field of computing? Massive changes in psychology? The big bang? Black holes? Quasars?

I guess I'm not sure what you consider profound.
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Let me put it this way. Have you ever heard of Plato, Aristotle, Socrates? - Morons.
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Dolphinandrew wrote:
George Brinton wrote:
I am disturbed by the idea that there have been no “profound” scientific discoveries in the last 125 years, not for lack of trying. Everything we presently have is “just” an studied exploration and expansion of what there was to “know” in 1900 (CE).


Quantum mechanics? Special and general relativity? Genetics? The entire field of computing? Massive changes in psychology? The big bang? Black holes? Quasars?

I guess I'm not sure what you consider profound.


This is all old stuff, derived since 1900 by continued examining and experimenting with these matters.
You realize of course, for example, that the telegraph is essentially the use of electric current to operate electro-servo mechanisms ...and that computers are nothing more than an expansion of that. (mechanical hand-driven computers are even older than the telegraph.
Oh, and quasars affect no one, no more than Mars has ever done.
Linnaeus started genetics, Leeuwenhoek started germ theory...
Curie purified the crap in pitchblende that was exposing adjacent photographic plates. Fermi concentrated it.
And Edison's illuminating globes are just hot wires in a Crooke's Tube.
Oh, and now we know why Mercury is 90 seconds "late" every Century.
Einstein described it.

What is NEW under the Sun?
 
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Based on the OP's profound abuse of quotation marks, I think he's probably enjoying some of the 20th and 21st centuries' developments in mind-altering substances.
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George Brinton wrote:
Dolphinandrew wrote:
George Brinton wrote:
I am disturbed by the idea that there have been no “profound” scientific discoveries in the last 125 years, not for lack of trying. Everything we presently have is “just” an studied exploration and expansion of what there was to “know” in 1900 (CE).


Quantum mechanics? Special and general relativity? Genetics? The entire field of computing? Massive changes in psychology? The big bang? Black holes? Quasars?

I guess I'm not sure what you consider profound.


This is all old stuff, derived since 1900 by continued examining and experimenting with these matters.
You realize of course, for example, that the telegraph is essentially the use of electric current to operate electro-servo mechanisms ...and that computers are nothing more than an expansion of that. (mechanical hand-driven computers are even older than the telegraph.
Oh, and quasars affect no one, no more than Mars has ever done.
Linnaeus started genetics, Leeuwenhoek started germ theory...
Curie purified the crap in pitchblende that was exposing adjacent photographic plates. Fermi concentrated it.
And Edison's illuminating globes are just hot wires in a Crooke's Tube.
Oh, and now we know why Mercury is 90 seconds "late" every Century.
Einstein described it.

What is NEW under the Sun?

Quantum mechanics. He repeats.
In 1900 there was only classical mechanics.
No QM, no transistors, Computers are not just an expansion of vacuum tubes.
Also we didn't remotely understand the structure of the atom 150 years ago.
You also have no idea what Fermi did clearly.
And Linnaeus did not start genetics, he classified, which is rather a different thing. And Leeuwenhoek did not start germ theory.
For someone who is convinced that nothing has changed in science you sure are ignorant of the subject.
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George Brinton wrote:
Dolphinandrew wrote:
George Brinton wrote:
I am disturbed by the idea that there have been no “profound” scientific discoveries in the last 125 years, not for lack of trying. Everything we presently have is “just” an studied exploration and expansion of what there was to “know” in 1900 (CE).


Quantum mechanics? Special and general relativity? Genetics? The entire field of computing? Massive changes in psychology? The big bang? Black holes? Quasars?

I guess I'm not sure what you consider profound.


This is all old stuff, derived since 1900 by continued examining and experimenting with these matters.
You realize of course, for example, that the telegraph is essentially the use of electric current to operate electro-servo mechanisms ...and that computers are nothing more than an expansion of that. (mechanical hand-driven computers are even older than the telegraph.
Oh, and quasars affect no one, no more than Mars has ever done.
Linnaeus started genetics, Leeuwenhoek started germ theory...
Curie purified the crap in pitchblende that was exposing adjacent photographic plates. Fermi concentrated it.
And Edison's illuminating globes are just hot wires in a Crooke's Tube.
Oh, and now we know why Mercury is 90 seconds "late" every Century.
Einstein described it.

What is NEW under the Sun?


New in that not in some way connected to anything we knew before? Well, nothing I suppose.

But could you give me an example of the kind of thing you mean before 1900? Because it seems to me that the reasons you give above for ruling out the things you mentioned could be applied to mean there hasn't been anything profound discovered since we crawled out of the ocean.
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bjlillo wrote:
Dolphinandrew wrote:
George Brinton wrote:
I am disturbed by the idea that there have been no “profound” scientific discoveries in the last 125 years, not for lack of trying. Everything we presently have is “just” an studied exploration and expansion of what there was to “know” in 1900 (CE).


Quantum mechanics? Special and general relativity? Genetics? The entire field of computing? Massive changes in psychology? The big bang? Black holes? Quasars?

I guess I'm not sure what you consider profound.


Let me put it this way. Have you ever heard of Plato, Aristotle, Socrates? - Morons.

Since your mind is clearly greater than those you call morons xcould you explain what the fuck you mean?
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To quote the Brits:

"I have no idea what the OP is going on about"
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DavidDearlove wrote:
bjlillo wrote:
Dolphinandrew wrote:
George Brinton wrote:
I am disturbed by the idea that there have been no “profound” scientific discoveries in the last 125 years, not for lack of trying. Everything we presently have is “just” an studied exploration and expansion of what there was to “know” in 1900 (CE).


Quantum mechanics? Special and general relativity? Genetics? The entire field of computing? Massive changes in psychology? The big bang? Black holes? Quasars?

I guess I'm not sure what you consider profound.


Let me put it this way. Have you ever heard of Plato, Aristotle, Socrates? - Morons.

Since your mind is clearly greater than those you call morons xcould you explain what the fuck you mean?


FightCityMayor even spoiled the joke above.
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bjlillo wrote:
Let me put it this way. Have you ever heard of Plato, Aristotle, Socrates? - Morons.

Since your mind is clearly greater than those you call morons xcould you explain what the fuck you mean?[/q]

It's a quote from the greatest movie ever made. It may actually be the pinnacle of human achievement over the last 150 years.[/q]

This is true.
 
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bjlillo wrote:
It's a quote from the greatest movie ever made. It may actually be the pinnacle of human achievement over the last 150 years.

Animal House?
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DavidDearlove wrote:
bjlillo wrote:
Dolphinandrew wrote:
George Brinton wrote:
I am disturbed by the idea that there have been no “profound” scientific discoveries in the last 125 years, not for lack of trying. Everything we presently have is “just” an studied exploration and expansion of what there was to “know” in 1900 (CE).


Quantum mechanics? Special and general relativity? Genetics? The entire field of computing? Massive changes in psychology? The big bang? Black holes? Quasars?

I guess I'm not sure what you consider profound.


Let me put it this way. Have you ever heard of Plato, Aristotle, Socrates? - Morons.

Since your mind is clearly greater than those you call morons xcould you explain what the fuck you mean?


FightCityMayor even spoiled the joke above.


Serious jerkiness there.
 
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You mean there are still people who have never seen that movie?
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You mean there are still people who have never seen that movie?


Shoot, if Trump proposed a special deportation force to get those people out of the country, he'd have my vote in a heartbeat.
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remorseless1 wrote:
bjlillo wrote:
It's a quote from the greatest movie ever made. It may actually be the pinnacle of human achievement over the last 150 years.

Animal House?
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What is NEW under the Sun?
Quantum mechanics. He repeats.
In 1900 there was only classical mechanics.
No QM, no transistors, Computers are not just an expansion of vacuum tubes.
Also we didn't remotely understand the structure of the atom 150 years ago.
You also have no idea what Fermi did clearly.
And Linnaeus did not start genetics, he classified, which is rather a different thing. And Leeuwenhoek did not start germ theory.
For someone who is convinced that nothing has changed in science you sure are ignorant of the subject.


1)Einstein describes the photoelectric effect which leads to Planck's Constant which is essentially the Quantization of light [energy]
2) transistors are just solid materials (rather than non-oxidizing gases) that block or permit the flow of current from point A to point B by using a controlling 3rd current. The Deforest triode, studied and dismissed by Edison.
3)Linneaus described the mathematical and proportional relationships between floral parent characteristics and progeny through generations of descent.
4) Leeuwenhoek examined the [microscopic] "animicules" that he could see floating between two glass slides he held up to the light.
5)Fermi got a sustained chain reaction going under the bleachers at the University of Chicago using Uranium like "Curie's" pitchblende.

 
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George Brinton wrote:
What is NEW under the Sun?
Quantum mechanics. He repeats.
In 1900 there was only classical mechanics.
No QM, no transistors, Computers are not just an expansion of vacuum tubes.
Also we didn't remotely understand the structure of the atom 150 years ago.
You also have no idea what Fermi did clearly.
And Linnaeus did not start genetics, he classified, which is rather a different thing. And Leeuwenhoek did not start germ theory.
For someone who is convinced that nothing has changed in science you sure are ignorant of the subject.


1)Einstein describes the photoelectric effect which leads to Planck's Constant which is essentially the Quantization of light [energy]
2) transistors are just solid materials (rather than non-oxidizing gases) that block or permit the flow of current from point A to point B by using a controlling 3rd current. The Deforest triode, studied and dismissed by Edison.
3)Linneaus described the mathematical and proportional relationships between floral parent characteristics and progeny through generations of descent.
4) Leeuwenhoek examined the [microscopic] "animicules" that he could see floating between two glass slides he held up to the light.
5)Fermi got a sustained chain reaction going under the bleachers at the University of Chicago using Uranium like "Curie's" pitchblende.


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bjlillo wrote:
To be fair, nothing actually has changed in physics or chemistry or biology over the last several millenia.


laughlaughlaugh

True!

It is only what we understand that changed... not the actual reality.

But the OP is still just silly.
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bjlillo wrote:
To be fair, nothing actually has changed in physics or chemistry or biology over the last several millenia.


Clever, but technically incorrect. Physics is the study of physical properties; Chemistry is the study - or science - of chemicals; Biology is the study of lifeforms and their chemistries.

So actually, grammatically, indubitably, they have changed.
 
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Meerkat wrote:
laughlaughlaugh

True!

It is only what we understand that changed... not the actual reality.

But the OP is still just silly.
"Sixth Senses" were being considered as FACT! Of course, 'moi' HATH these "go too 11" on account of; "it is what it is!" whistle
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