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Subject: PBF 11: Secret Hitler Man – Game over! rss

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There is a role that is the role of danger.
To every other player he's a stranger.
With every vote they take
He fears they'll prove him fake.
Odds are he won't live to be elected.

Secret Hitler Man! Secret Hitler Man!
The only blindfold Fascist, the key player in the game.

Project a pretty face for them to find.
A pretty face may hide an evil mind.
Be careful what you say,
You may give yourself away.
Odds are you won't live to be elected.

Secret Hitler Man. Secret Hitler Man.
The only blindfold Fascist, the key player in the game.

(to the tune of Johnny Rivers, "Secret Agent Man")

1Goal

The Liberals win if:
Secret Hitler is killed
or
five liberal policies are enacted

The Fascists and Secret Hitler win if:
six fascist policies are enacted
or
Secret Hitler is elected chancellor after a third fascist policy has been enacted.


2Setup

Each player will get one of three roles. There will be:

3 Liberals (Don't know anyone's role)
1 Fascist (Knows who is secret Hitler)
1 Secret Hitler (Knows who is the Fascist)

In a paper game you would get more cards for votes and other stuff but we won't need them here!

A table order will be randomly determined as well as a first president.

The policy deck will be shuffled. It contains:
11 Fascist policy cards and 6 Liberal policy cards.

3Gameplay

Game takes place over a series of rounds.

1Election
The next player on table order becomes president (skipped on first round) and nominates a Chancellor. A player who has enacted the last policy cannot be nominated as chancellor. (this includes the last president and the last chancellor in a 8 player game)

Then every player will vote to approve or not this legislative duo. 3 yes votes means they have been elected.

If there are not 3 YES votes then the president passes to the next player.

If 3 elections fail in a row. A random policy is drawn from the top of the deck and is immediately enacted. Everyone is eligible to be president or chancellor on the next round if this happens.

After an election succeeds, we go to the Legislative phase.

Remember, If 3 fascist policies have been enacted and secret Hitler is elected chancellor, he reveals himself and the game is immediately over. The fascists and Secret Hitler win.

2Legislative Phase

As soon as we enter this phase: NO POSTING IS ALLOWED.

The president draws 3 policies from the deck and discards one face down and passes the remaining two to the chancellor. The Chancellors then also discards one face down and the last card is revealed and enacted.

If there are fewer than 3 policies left in the deck, we pick up all discarded cards and shuffle them with the remaining cards to create a new deck.

3Executive action phase

Whenever a policy is enacted it is placed on its corresponding track. Liberal policies have no effect and this phase is skipped But whenever a fascist policy is enacted, it may grant a special power usable at this phase.

the power MUST be used.

With 5 players, here are the powers:

First Fascist Policy: Nothing
Second Fascist Policy: Nothing
Third Fascist Policy: Policy Peek (the President gets to look at the top three policies in the deck, without changing their order)

At this point the Fascists win if Secret Hitler is elected as chancellor!

Fourth Fascist Policy: Execution (President chooses someone to be eliminated from the game and cannot say anything more, that player's role is not revealed unless he is secret Hitler in which case the liberals win!)
Fifth Fascist Policy: Execution (President chooses someone to be eliminated from the game and cannot say anything more, that player's role is not revealed unless he is secret Hitler in which case the liberals win!)

Veto Power: At this point, after the president has passed 2 policy cards to the chancellor, the chancellor may declares he wants to veto the agenda. The president has to decide if he also wants to veto. If he does not, policy is enacted. If he does approve, both cards are discarded face down and president passes to the next player in the table order.

IMPORTANT: Using the veto power counts as a failed government. meaning it will count the same way as voting no in the elections. (if this or no votes happen 3 times in a row, a random policy will be enacted from the top of the deck.

Sixth Fascist Policy: The fascists win! Heil Secret Hitler!

***Rules post stolen from mrfan, who stole it from SarahBoBara, who stole it from Xapi, who stole it from Floofies who stole it from ljtrigirl, who stole it from Borgoto***


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VOTE! Voting links: JA/NEIN

Rules: http://maxtemk.in/3V0t2o3T163K

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Re: PBF 11: Secret Hitler Man
Do I post here to sign up? If so, I would like to sign up.
 
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Re: PBF 11: Secret Hitler Man
Yep, sign up by posting in the thread. Got you down.
 
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Re: PBF 11: Secret Hitler Man
Me too! Me too!
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I'm interested.
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Re: PBF 11: Secret Hitler Man
I'd love to play again.
One caveat though - I'll be away for a con next Friday - Mon (28th-31st) and will likely not be online much.
Beyond that though, I'm all good.
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I'd love to play if there is space.
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Re: PBF 11: Secret Hitler Man
That's 5, the minimum number. I'll wait a day or so more to see if we can get more people.
 
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Re: PBF 11: Secret Hitler Man
David Goldfarb wrote:
That's 5, the minimum number. I'll wait a day or so more to see if we can get more people.


I suggest putting up a notice in the Waiting Room thread.
 
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Re: PBF 11: Secret Hitler Man
I've done so. I also did some face-to-face recruiting at a meetup I went to tonight.
 
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Re: PBF 11: Secret Hitler Man
Round 1.1
President: Kevin Youells
Chancellor: EdSimons

Kevin Youells JA
GaiusJC NEIN
TomTi89 JA
EdSimons JA
Likeless NEIN

Liberal policy enacted. Liberals 1, Fascists 0.

Round 2.1
President: GaiusJC
Chancellor: Likeless

Kevin Youells NEIN
GaiusJC JA
TomTi89 NEIN
EdSimons JA
Likeless JA

Fascist policy enacted. Liberals 1, Fascists 1.

Round 3.1
President: TomTi89
Chancellor: Kevin Youells

Kevin Youells JA
GaiusJC JA
TomTi89 JA
EdSimons NEIN
Likeless JA

Liberal policy enacted. Liberals 2, Fascists 1.

Round 4.1
President: EdSimons
Chancellor: Likeless

Kevin Youells JA
GaiusJC JA
TomTi89 NEIN
EdSimons JA
Likeless NEIN

Liberal policy enacted. Liberals 3, Fascists 1.

Round 5.1
President: Likeless
Chancellor: Kevin Youells

Kevin Youells NEIN
GaiusJC JA
TomTi89 NEIN
EdSimons NEIN
Likeless JA

Round 5.2
President: Kevin Youells
Chancellor: TomTi89

Kevin Youells JA
GaiusJC NEIN
TomTi89 JA
EdSimons JA
Likeless JA

Fascist policy enacted. Liberals 3, Fascists 2.

Round 6.1
President: GaiusJC
Chancellor: EdSimons

Kevin Youells NEIN
GaiusJC JA
TomTi89 NEIN
EdSimons JA
Likeless NEIN

Round 6.2
President: TomTi89
Chancellor: Likeless

Kevin Youells JA
GaiusJC JA
TomTi89 JA
EdSimons JA
Likeless JA

Fascist policy enacted. Liberals 3, Fascists 3.

Round 7.1
President: EdSimons
Chancellor: GaiusJC

Kevin Youells JA
GaiusJC JA
TomTi89 NEIN
EdSimons JA
Likeless NEIN

GaiusJC is not Hitler.

Fascist policy enacted. Liberals 3, Fascists 4.

President EdSimons executes Kevin Youells. Kevin is not Hitler either.
 
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Re: PBF 11: Secret Hitler Man
Okay, time to fire this up.

This will be a five player game, which means three Liberals, one regular Fascist, and Hitler. Hitler will know who his Fascist minion is. The first two Fascist policies enacted do nothing; the third allows the President to view the top three cards of the Policy deck; the fourth and fifth as always cause executions, with the fifth unlocking the veto power.

One very important difference between a 5er and a game with more: only the Chancellor is term-limited. The previous President is eligible to be nominated for Chancellor in the next administration. (Otherwise it would be impossible to elect two all-Liberal governments in a row.)

Randomized turn order is:

Kevin Youells
GaiusJC
TomTi89
EdSimons
likeless

Geekmails with the player roles are going out shortly.

Kevin, you are the first Presidential candidate. Please nominate a Chancellor.
 
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Re: PBF 11: Secret Hitler Man
Last time I slept through the start of the game. This time I'm the first here. Awesome!

Kevin, obviously I'd prefer to go on this mission, but if I had to suggest, I'd say the same as last game.
That is, to your left to build a trust team [can't remember who coined that term but it wasn't me] or to your right to spread power around.
 
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No investigations in the five player game. Interesting. This is my first time playing with a player count lower than eight, so I am looking forward to seeing how it works out.

In the meantime, Ed and I have been in direct opposition in both games we have played together, whether we've actually been on the same side or not. Let's try something different this time.


I nominate Ed as Chancellor.
 
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Okay: Kevin Youells as President, EdSimons as Chancellor.

VOTE! Voting links: JA/NEIN
 
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Re: PBF 11: Secret Hitler Man
Votes are in!

Kevin Youells JA
GaiusJC NEIN
TomTi89 JA
EdSimons JA
likeless NEIN

The government is elected.

No posting in the thread until a policy is enacted!
 
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Re: PBF 11: Secret Hitler Man
The President has discarded a policy and passed on two cards.

Still no posting!
 
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I enact a liberal policy.

I was passed 2 liberal policies.
 
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Re: PBF 11: Secret Hitler Man
And while discussion goes on about that, it's round 2.1 and GaiusJC is the Presidential candidate. Gaius, who do you wish as Chancellor? (Remember that EdSimons is barred but Kevin Youells is eligible.)
 
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EdSimons wrote:
I enact a liberal policy.

I was passed 2 liberal policies.


I drew LLF and was not taking any chances.
 
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David Goldfarb wrote:
And while discussion goes on about that, it's round 2.1 and GaiusJC is the Presidential candidate. Gaius, who do you wish as Chancellor? (Remember that EdSimons is barred but Kevin Youells is eligible.)


That Kevin guy seems like a likely liberal.
 
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Kevin Youells wrote:
EdSimons wrote:
I enact a liberal policy.

I was passed 2 liberal policies.


I drew LLF and was not taking any chances.


I would have done the same.
 
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I'll take likeless to get some information.
 
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GaiusJC and likeless.

VOTE! Voting links: JA/NEIN
 
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GaiusJC wrote:
I'll take likeless to get some information.


I'll address this to Gaius and Likeless: With no discussion and no information, you both voted against my presidency. Why is that?

A follow up question for Gaius: Why pick Likeless at this time?
 
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