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Subject: Liang Card text not the same as power in rule book! rss

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K Lang
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Liang's Card text says - " in the scoring phase, the player of your choice will lose 1 point for each card in their combination".

Rule book says Liang's power is - "in the scoring phase you can steal 4 points from the player of your choice".

Which should we be playing?
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Gonzalo Aguirre Bisi
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Hello there!

You can play with any of the two abilities. We think that the 4 points steal is more balanced and less cut throat than the original "lose 1 point for each card in their combination" as in the japanese version.

Let me know how it went!
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Xoul wrote:
Hello there!

You can play with any of the two abilities. We think that the 4 points steal is more balanced and less cut throat than the original "lose 1 point for each card in their combination" as in the japanese version.

Let me know how it went!


Another quick question. While your at it. What does "lose 1 pt for each card in their combination" mean? is it for every color they have -1 pt?
 
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Saigetsu wrote:


Another quick question. While your at it. What does "lose 1 pt for each card in their combination" mean? is it for every color they have -1 pt?


Is is actually for each card in the combination. So it could go from 4 (if the player got stolen) to 8 if the player did an amazing turn. That's why we are sure steal 4 points is more balanced.
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Xoul wrote:
Saigetsu wrote:


Another quick question. While your at it. What does "lose 1 pt for each card in their combination" mean? is it for every color they have -1 pt?


Is is actually for each card in the combination. So it could go from 4 (if the player got stolen) to 8 if the player did an amazing turn. That's why we are sure steal 4 points is more balanced.


Ah alright. Thx ^^
 
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Xoul wrote:
Saigetsu wrote:


Another quick question. While your at it. What does "lose 1 pt for each card in their combination" mean? is it for every color they have -1 pt?


Is is actually for each card in the combination. So it could go from 4 (if the player got stolen) to 8 if the player did an amazing turn. That's why we are sure steal 4 points is more balanced.


But
"lose 1 point for each card in their combination"
for me, the player lose 4 point (for example) and you win 0 point.
"Steal 4 point"
for me, the player lose 4 point and you win 4 points.
That a difference of 8 points ! You think, it's more balanced !?
And what about "Suyin" whose the effect if for all the player ? It's not an advantage for the player who have this character !? wow
 
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Cyrus1981 wrote:

But
"lose 1 point for each card in their combination"
for me, the player lose 4 point (for example) and you win 0 point.
"Steal 4 point"
for me, the player lose 4 point and you win 4 points.
That a difference of 8 points ! You think, it's more balanced !?
And what about "Suyin" whose the effect if for all the player ? It's not an advantage for the player who have this character !? wow


Normally is way more than 4 points. It could be up to 7 or 8 cards.

Suyin only applies to the player that got the card. Every ability only applies to the owner of the card
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Just to be clear then,
Liang's ability means that a target player loses four points, but Liang does not gain four points?
 
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KonradwithaK wrote:
Just to be clear then,
Liang's ability means that a target player loses four points, but Liang does not gain four points?


Target loses 4, liang gets 4.
 
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Thank you very much.
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Xoul wrote:
Is is actually for each card in the combination. So it could go from 4 (if the player got stolen) to 8 if the player did an amazing turn. That's why we are sure steal 4 points is more balanced.

I'm very confused by this so I feel like I'm missing something. How can it go up to 8? You normally draft 5 cards, could have -1 or +1 from greed. Where does 7 or 8 come from?
 
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Jolderon wrote:
Xoul wrote:
Is is actually for each card in the combination. So it could go from 4 (if the player got stolen) to 8 if the player did an amazing turn. That's why we are sure steal 4 points is more balanced.

I'm very confused by this so I feel like I'm missing something. How can it go up to 8? You normally draft 5 cards, could have -1 or +1 from greed. Where does 7 or 8 come from?


It is very hard but not impossible.
- You need to have "Gan" to take a 6th card
- You get voted, you deny, you are not guilty, you take a card from the discard pile
- You are the one with the most greed cards, you steal one from another player

Total of cards: 8 (amazing player)
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Oh jeez, okay, I see. That would be amazing! Thanks for the clarification.
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Jolderon wrote:
Oh jeez, okay, I see. That would be amazing! Thanks for the clarification.

Now that you know, every time you'll get Gan you'll try to do that doncha
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Haha, yup! It's my new goal in life
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