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Flo de Haan
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I'm sure this has been discussed a thousand times before, but I can't find the answer.

I'm a big fan of 1835 (Germany), but I'd like to know which 18xx games other fans recommend.

Thanks in advance.
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That's like picking your favorite child.
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My favorite is 1846: The Race for the Midwest (which is currently coming out from GMT Games at a very affordable price.) Of course, many people have other favorites.
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pilotbob wrote:
That's like picking your favorite child.


I was going to ask: What is the best food and why, but obviously the answer is cheesecake so there's no point having the discussion.
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Which ice cream flavor is the best and why? meeple

In general I prefer 18xx games that have a high replayability and that allow multiple strategies to be successful.

Mostly, I prefer full capitalization games (i.e. corporation receives 100% of the moneys when it floats) that allow some kind of stock market shenanigans. Games where track and token placement have some variability also have my interest. I rate 1830 (and close derivatives like 1879) the highest.

I don't find 1835 that interesting, although it has its charming aspects. I really like the initial bidding system in 1853, but the rest of the game so-so.

I have not yet played the before mentioned 1846: The Race for the Midwest, but its shorter length has my interest.
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Flodehaan wrote:
I'm a big fan of 1835 (Germany), but I'd like to know which 18xx games other fans recommend.


In what way is this not already answered by the individual ratings for the various games?
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2038: Tycoons of the Asteroid Belt because it's not saddled with the boring train theme.

(Mostly joking... mostly...)
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Well I have a friend coming around in the morning to teach me 1830, I'm really looking forward to it. He has the new Mayfair edition.

Has anyone here played that huge 18OE game?
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biffta wrote:
Has anyone here played that huge 18OE game?

I bought it because it was there.
Still in the shrink wrap because I don't know what to do with it.
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Venser wrote:
biffta wrote:
Has anyone here played that huge 18OE game?

I bought it because it was there.
Still in the shrink wrap because I don't know what to do with it.


Ditto. Its good for flattening maps and game boards. Also, no one ever guesses it during 20 questions.
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pilotbob wrote:
That's like picking your favorite child.


Even answers like this are sort of helpful.

I'm actually looking for the why's rather than just long term ratings.

I'm interested in what people think what makes that specific version different/better.

Sorry to bother if you think this is a stupid question. I have only played 1830 and 1835. Haven't got much time lately due some other game I've been playing 'a lot'.
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biffta wrote:
Has anyone here played that huge 18OE game?


Yes, a few times.
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That question comes so very much down to what one likes in 18xx games.

My personal current favourites are 1825, 1846, and 18OE.
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Right! 18XX can be long and mathy. If that doesn't scare you away then consider the following.

There are certain aspects that people favour depending on taste.
(People are free to add their own examples)
-Building railroads. (1853)
The puzzle of laying track and stations to maximize your companies profit and limit that of others.

-Managing portfolios for the best value.
Starting companies at the optimum price for starting capital, dumping and jumping your money into a new RR. Cross investing to get a taste of someone elses' success.

-Stock shenanigans and manipulations. (1830, 1817)
Trashing stock value by selling out stock, looting a company and dumping its' rotting husk on an unwary player and take-overs.

-Full or partial capitalization.
Enough stock is purchased and a new company gets the par value of all its' stock then it runs low on capital and you decide to withold or jump your money to a new RR. Or a company starts with just the presidents' certificate and gets income form dividends for the unsold shares and money when they're purchased at market value.

-Ability to play in one evening.
The satisfaction of seeing a game through all its' phases for the full experience or play half of a really interesting game. ("Cough! J.C. Cough!")
These all have their merits.
Plunge in and try a few out and think about what you enjoyed or didn't. There's probably a game for you.


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Flodehaan wrote:
Haven't got much time lately due some other game I've been playing 'a lot'.


What game could possibly take up so much of your time? whistle

But seriously--are you looking to buy an 18xx or two yourself, or do you have some others near you that have a library and you just want to know what to play from their selection? There are definitely availability issues with many titles.
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I can't believe it went this long...

"The best..."?

The one on the table in front of you while people you 'like being around' let you put those two minors together for the perfect start...
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Yeah, I should of spoke up sooner and saved you all some time. The correct answer is 1849 because reasons.... whistle

But seriously, this is a tough question to answer well. But we'll try.
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biffta wrote:
Has anyone here played that huge 18OE game?

More than 20 times, and it became my favorite in the last 2 years.
It's not so huge, because you can choose between about 10 short and medium scenarios.
And it's well playable with only 2 players.
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Flodehaan wrote:
I'm actually looking for the why's rather than just long term ratings.

I'm interested in what people think what makes that specific version different/better.

I specifically set out to answer this here:

1846 --- a fine introductory game in the 18XX series
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biffta wrote:
Has anyone here played that huge 18OE game?

Yes. A couple of times meeple

I love the 10-hour big game, although it's hard to get that one on the table. But otherwise, with all the 2/3/4-player scenarios, this is one of the most versatile 18xx I own. And it's a pretty good one too!
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8bit Geezer wrote:
Flodehaan wrote:
Haven't got much time lately due some other game I've been playing 'a lot'.


What game could possibly take up so much of your time? whistle

But seriously--are you looking to buy an 18xx or two yourself, or do you have some others near you that have a library and you just want to know what to play from their selection? There are definitely availability issues with many titles.


Actually I discovered 1830 just last year, and I'd like to try more variants, but I don't just want to by the next 18xx I get my hands on.
Long games don't scare me away. I love 'em, as long as the group of players is dedicated.
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Clearly it must be 1841 because (I cite): "1841 is the apex ... of 18xx stock-market manipulation"

Nuff said!
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My current favorites are:

1. 18OE
2. 1844
3. 1880
4. 1869

They all play quite differently which makes them interesting.
I've played 1830 a hundred times and now prefer different concepts.
Currently I like 18OE the most, because you start with a huge number of open companies that later merge. Takes a lot of time, but can a great game take too long? Additionally it's the only 18xx I enjoy with 2 players and short scenarios.
I like 1844 for it's turn order concept and the addition of tunnel and mountain companies.
1880 with it's communist phase and building phase limits that avoids too much track laying in the end game. Downside is that P7 owner always seems to win and russian investor always looses.
1869 was the first 18xx I played after 1830 and 1835. I still like it and most often win with canadian.
I don't like 1835, not enough diversity in game play, starting order too important.
I once played 1817 and liked it, but the other players didn't and refused to play it again. Half of them didn't understand the concept of short selling.


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Flodehaan wrote:
Long games don't scare me away.


That should come as no surprise to anyone, seeing as it's being said by the co-author of Mega Civilization!
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