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Subject: My First Rosenberg/Feld Game? Dudes on a map? rss

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Kristopher Hickman
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I started into the hobby last year. My wife and I play games 4-5 times a week and I also have several gaming buddies whom I get together with both in and out of a weekly gaming night. I have a moderate collection which can be found here. I recently played Terra Mystica and was extremely pleased with it. I did not mind it's length nor its largely pasted on theme. I've had my eye on some other Euros for a while, such as Puerto Rico and Marco Polo. It seems to me that as a gamer, it's time to get my feet wet with a sample from some of the greats: Uwe Rosenberg and Stephan Feld. I feel really compelled for Castles of Burgundy to be my first Feld game, but I am almost overwhelmed by the sheer volume that Rosenberg has put out there: Agricola, Caverna, Le Havre, and now A Feast for Odin! Where should I start? My wife is into the longer strategic games. She likes to see where things are going and plan for the long run. My brother has similar tastes and I am almost always up for a good game.

Also, as Christmas is coming up, I am looking to add one more category to my collection: dudes on a map. I am considering Blood Rage and Cry Havoc, but am willing to take suggestions.

I recognize that these two game suggestions are on opposite sides of the spectrum. I am at the point in my gaming career where I have played a lot of the entry level games and am looking to delve a little deeper at both ends to see what appeals to me most.
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Dudes on a map: Chaos in the Old World is amazing if you can find it.

Rosenburg: Le Havre if you want longer and multiplayer, Agricola All Creatures Big and Small or Patchwork if you would enjoy a 30 minute 2 player game.
 
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chris thatcher
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Le Havre is awesome.

For dudes on the map... Cyclades, Blood Rage, Cry Havoc and Kemet are all really good. I would just research each and see what strikes your fancy (my fave is Cyclades but they are all good.)
 
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I have played and/or own all games mentioned except Feast for Odin.

Marco Polo and Puerto Rico are amazing.

My girlfriend and I play 90% 2-player games, and we feel that all of Uwe's games work well. The age-old Agricola vs. Caverna debate comes down to whether or you prefer the tension of just barely having enough time to scrape by (Agricola) or the openness of a sandbox style game (Caverna).

Castles of Burgundy is a good game, but we found that Grand Austria Hotel scratched the same itch with a few more interesting mechanics that added extra tension and variability. It's by the same designer as The Voyages of Marco Polo and Tzolk'in: The Mayan Calendar. Its only downfall is that the downtime can be a bit much at 4p if you have even one AP prone player.

I love Blood Rage to death, but it's just not very good at 2 player. You lose that epic carnage that happens when everyone attempts to pillage the same province. The 2p drafting variant also isn't as great. Cry Havoc works well at 2p, partially due to the presence of the Trogs. Since it relies on deckbuilding and faction asymmetry (a la Terra Mystica), it doesn't rely on a draft for replayability. At 3p and above, we do prefer Blood Rage though.

Other exceptional strategic Euros that scale well from 2 - 4 in the same weight range as the above:
Viticulture Essential Edition
Troyes
Scythe
Tzolk'in: The Mayan Calendar (mentioned above)
 
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