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George Louie
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I bought the Android Digital version of the game and it plays great except for the fact that it often uses words which aren't in English dictionary!! . At least not the version on dictionary.com. It's kind of frustrating when it seems like your opponent can literally make up words to beat you.

Does anybody know what dictionary the Android version of the game is using?!?!
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Trevor Taylor
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What words did it use that aren't real?
 
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Simon Taylor
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Not a british one, for sure
 
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Words I can remember that have been allowed by the app even though I wouldn't:

Wonned
Santos
 
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http://www.dictionary.com/browse/wonned
http://www.dictionary.com/browse/roosing
(Both are valid Scrabble words, it seems)

http://www.dictionary.com/browse/santos
(not valid in scrabble)
 
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Interesting. The word santo, plural santos, is in Merriam-Webster. I don't see why the word would not be allowed in Scrabble. Dictionary.com seems to be referring to capitalized port city in giving a zero score.
http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/santo
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I'm playing on iOS, and it sure seems like the AI uses lots of words that are suspicious to me. I just haven't gone to the bother of actually looking them up. Mostly because (and to me, this is really the only issue I have with the AI) I always win anyway.

I'm not trying to boast; I love the game, but I very rarely win against human opponents, so I certainly don't consider myself an expert. But I play against the "Harder AI" on this iOS version and win handily almost every time. So what do I care if she makes up a few words here and there?

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Personally I would like to be able to check the short description of at least one meaning of the spelled word inside the app. That would be a cool feature, and would also help to improve my vocabulary.
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hgcoleman wrote:
Interesting. The word santo, plural santos, is in Merriam-Webster. I don't see why the word would not be allowed in Scrabble. Dictionary.com seems to be referring to capitalized port city in giving a zero score.
http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/santo


If you scroll down, you'll see the saint figurine definition on dictionary.com
 
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Atnier Rodriguez
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There's not one all-inclusive dictionary out there, so when checking for validity, please check:

Dictionary.com (collates many resources)

Oxford Dictionaries (adds new words each year, such as "meeple", many dictionaries don't have "meeple" yet)

Collins Dictionary (includes many obsolete words)

I regularly check validity of words when playing Words with Friends, Capitals and Paperback, and I've made the mistake before of not looking in all three of the aforementioned dictionaries. If a word is in neither of those, then you may have a problem.

Also, note there's words that are not allowed because they are proper nouns such as "Minotaur". Even though it is used in modern fantasy, the mythological one is The Minotaur, not a minotaur.

Also, proper nouns sometimes mean something else, so don't think a proper noun has infiltrated by mistake.
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okami31 wrote:
hgcoleman wrote:
Interesting. The word santo, plural santos, is in Merriam-Webster. I don't see why the word would not be allowed in Scrabble. Dictionary.com seems to be referring to capitalized port city in giving a zero score.
http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/santo


If you scroll down, you'll see the saint figurine definition on dictionary.com


I saw that, but I was referring to your "not valid in Scrabble" comment, which I thought was originating from the "0" value in Scrabble given by dictionary.com in the right hand column that seems to be referring to the capitaized Santos.
 
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okami31 wrote:
Also, proper nouns sometimes mean something else, so don't think a proper noun has infiltrated by mistake.


For a while I thought non-foreign names were allowed (non-foreign since STALIN and NINA were rejected), but then a couple of common names were rejected. I looked the next couple up and learned or was reminded that they had actual meanings. After thinking about it that way, I started wondering if names without meanings are in the minority...

Off the top of my head: Bob, Lynn, Sue, Mark, Bill, John, Carol...
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Mohasz wrote:
Personally I would like to be able to check the short description of at least one meaning of the spelled word inside the app. That would be a cool feature, and would also help to improve my vocabulary.


And I would like a 'hint' option to see what the AI would have done with my letters. Maybe even if it was post my turn.

Incidentally, I was a bit miffed that it rejected Hispanic and then came up with Timothy. (It's OK, I know that Hispanic is a proper adjective while a timothy is a jar.)

 
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It rejected "Italian" for me. I don't know, those kind of words should be allowed I think.
At the same time, the AI just keeps creating words I've never even heard of.
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Mohasz wrote:
It rejected "Italian" for me. I don't know, those kind of words should be allowed I think.
At the same time, the AI just keeps creating words I've never even heard of.


Most word games reject proper nouns. I do think countries and popular proper nouns should be used but I guess they are all afraid of regular names making it in. It would have to be a carefully curated database and most of these games are not seemingly interested in personalizing gheir list of accepted words.

Still waiting for a word game with a strong interest in their community feed back that's not just providing a form to turn word suggestions in. Something with a weekly post telling us how they are improving, you know.
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negatrev wrote:
What words did it use that aren't real?


The game used these words which are not in dictionary.com and the Oxford Dictionary App:


Wovens
Anestri

Even if it's using multiple dictionaries that each have different words, I just like to know which ones it is using.

Id also like the option to have it ask me to proceed after AI plays it's word. It removes the word really fast, so it's sometimes hard to see what error was played.
 
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glouie wrote:
negatrev wrote:
What words did it use that aren't real?


The game used these words which are not in dictionary.com and the Oxford Dictionary App:


Wovens
Anestri

Even if it's using multiple dictionaries that each have different words, I just like to know which ones it is using.

Id also like the option to have it ask me to proceed after AI plays it's word. It removes the word really fast, so it's sometimes hard to see what error was played.


Wovens is accepted in Scrabble. Merriam Webster has it as a noun meaning "a woven fabric." Being a noun, wovens is its plural.

Anestri is a valid Scrabble word and the plural of "anestrus." Once again, according to Merriam Webster: anestrus is the period of sexual quiescence between two periods of sexual activity in cyclically breeding mammals.
 
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glouie wrote:
[q="negatrev"]Id also like the option to have it ask me to proceed after AI plays it's word. It removes the word really fast, so it's sometimes hard to see what error was played.


In the upper left-hand corner, next to the menu/settings button, there's a log button. The word played each turn is shown there.
 
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Clevider wrote:
glouie wrote:
[q="negatrev"]Id also like the option to have it ask me to proceed after AI plays it's word. It removes the word really fast, so it's sometimes hard to see what error was played.


In the upper left-hand corner, next to the menu/settings button, there's a log button. The word played each turn is shown there.


Got it, but that doesn't allow you too see how the special abilities were used and affected the score. It's also difficult to look back and forth at the play in real time.
 
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