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I was going to buy a game from Worthington publishers Holdfast system or the Civil war series when I noticed in the review the map was unmounted. I can't stand games like this so I wonder of other publishers do the same thing?

I know GMT and a number of Wargame companies do this but are there any others I should avoid?
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The best games have paper maps.

Your loss.
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These days I'm preferring unmounted. Much better looking, smaller on the shelf, lighter. Cheaper too.
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Oiler1 wrote:
I was going to buy a game from Worthington publishers Holdfast system or the Civil war series when I noticed in the review the map was unmounted. I can't stand games like this so I wonder of other publishers do the same thing?

I know GMT and a number of Wargame companies do this but are there any others I should avoid?

Sorry, I'm with the OP on this one. Cheap components ruin a game for me.
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Cheaper doesn't mean cheap. Warriors of God's map is what convinced me. On deluxe paper it has a much better finish, and doesn't have board creases so the art isn't degraded. It's been remarkably tough and you can use a sheet of plexi if you're concerned. Gorgeous map.

As far as I know only wargame companies are holding out, and they're surrendering as well. GMT is generally mounted now. The smaller publishers still go with paper. Most games list it in their components, so you're best to judge on a case by case basis.

I'd rather use the space and the money saved to buy another game.

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Sagrilarus wrote:

These days I'm preferring unmounted. Much better looking, smaller on the shelf, lighter. Cheaper too.

https://boardgamegeek.com/geeklist/68085/how-i-learned-stop-...

I just got a copy of Paths of Glory in a trade and it included both a paper map and a mounted map. I ditched the mounted map. (I mean I still have it for the non-existent off-chance that I play the game anywhere other than my house, but I don't keep it with the game.)

@ the OP, some of the GMT games have mounted maps, some don't.
 
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Dude, you're going to miss out on a lot of good wargames if you aren't okay with paper maps. And as Matthew wrote, some of GMT's boards are mounted, some aren't.

All wargamers own a sheet or two of plexiglass for paper maps. Notice how the counters seem to float over the hexes. What could be more beautiful?



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I got sucked in as I thought all games have mounted boards except for the older publishers.

I thought that constant folding on paper maps deteriorates them faster.

My friend laminates his so that's am idea.

Oh man, where do I buy a sheet of plexiglass? Hardware stores?
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some of the GMT games have mounted maps, some don't.


For instance, Combat Commander has paper maps for a reason - there are over 100 different maps.

For instance, Sekigahara has a mounted map, only one map.

I use heavy plexiglass on both, because plexiglass protects the maps and forces them to lay absolutely flat on the table.

If you play a lot of wargames, owning a couple different size pieces of plexiglass is a must.

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Burnham wrote:
Sagrilarus wrote:

These days I'm preferring unmounted. Much better looking, smaller on the shelf, lighter. Cheaper too.

https://boardgamegeek.com/geeklist/68085/how-i-learned-stop-...

I just got a copy of Paths of Glory in a trade and it included both a paper map and a mounted map. I ditched the mounted map. (I mean I still have it for the non-existent off-chance that I play the game anywhere other than my house, but I don't keep it with the game.)

@ the OP, some of the GMT games have mounted maps, some don't.


Thanks for the link. Very informative.
 
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where do I buy a sheet of plexiglass?


Lowe's or Home Depot.
 
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MAJBrown22 wrote:
Oiler1 wrote:
I was going to buy a game from Worthington publishers Holdfast system or the Civil war series when I noticed in the review the map was unmounted. I can't stand games like this so I wonder of other publishers do the same thing?

I know GMT and a number of Wargame companies do this but are there any others I should avoid?

Sorry, I'm with the OP on this one. Cheap components ruin a game for me.


It's not about being cheap. Most maps are 24x32 which is getting pretty large for a mounted map.

Add another map, or 5, and it is prohibitively expensive.

Not to mention heavy and a pain in the ass to store.

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Oiler1 wrote:
I got sucked in as I thought all games have mounted boards except for the older publishers.

I thought that constant folding on paper maps deteriorates them faster.

My friend laminates his so that's am idea.

Oh man, where do I buy a sheet of plexiglass? Hardware stores?


You unfold it and stick plexi on top. Almost no wear.


DO NOT LAMINATE GAME MAPS. They become a nightmare to store, don't lay flat ever again, and pretty much nuke any resale value.
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Oiler1 wrote:
I got sucked in as I thought all games have mounted boards except for the older publishers.

I thought that constant folding on paper maps deteriorates them faster.

My friend laminates his so that's am idea.

Oh man, where do I buy a sheet of plexiglass? Hardware stores?

Laminates a map? I have a laminator for player aids, but I never thought about laminating something that big. Anyway, if you did that I guess it doesn't go back in the box.

I went to TAP Plastics to get mine. There are stores around here, but apparently they ship:

http://www.tapplastics.com/product/plastics/cut_to_size_plas...

Locally, maybe a glass shop?
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Multi-Man Publishing added a new dimension with their Advanced Squad Leader starter kits, and now all ASL core maps. They are a thin but moderately stiff cardstock. These should not be confused with actual unmounted paper maps that go back to Avalon Hill's Squad Leader days
 
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And yes, plexiglass is likely to be available anywhere there are windows and suppliers of needed materials.

(There's this internet thing that might help searching.)
 
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bltzlfsk wrote:
Multi-Man Publishing added a new dimension with their Advanced Squad Leader starter kits, and now all ASL core maps. They are a thin but moderately stiff cardstock. These should not be confused with actual unmounted paper maps that go back to Avalon Hill's Squad Leader days


Squad Leader came with mounted map boards.
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The best games have paper maps.

Your loss.


Yep, seconded. I love the paper maps.
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Oiler1 wrote:


I thought that constant folding on paper maps deteriorates them faster.



What do you think you're folding on a mounted map . . .
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scifiantihero wrote:
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I thought that constant folding on paper maps deteriorates them faster.



What do you think you're folding on a mounted map . . .


I've had more 'mounted' board 'snap' trying to get them to lay flat then unmounted.

No that I really care one way or another. But, do know some mounted map games are way more heavy then they need to be.
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Guantanamo wrote:
scifiantihero wrote:
Oiler1 wrote:


I thought that constant folding on paper maps deteriorates them faster.



What do you think you're folding on a mounted map . . .


I've had more 'mounted' board 'snap' trying to get them to lay flat then unmounted.

No that I really care one way or another. But, do know some mounted map games are way more heavy then they need to be.



My C+C Nap board broke along a seam.


Never had a paper map break or wear out. Or warp.
 
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Windopaene wrote:
bltzlfsk wrote:
Multi-Man Publishing added a new dimension with their Advanced Squad Leader starter kits, and now all ASL core maps. They are a thin but moderately stiff cardstock. These should not be confused with actual unmounted paper maps that go back to Avalon Hill's Squad Leader days


Squad Leader came with mounted map boards.


When the Cross of Iron gamette came out in 1979 it included unmounted versions of boards 1 to 4 to assist in line-of-sight variations due to mis-sized hexes on the originals, as well as the standard mounted board 5. IIRC, more were made available as a separate purchase by popular demand.
 
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Sagrilarus wrote:

These days I'm preferring unmounted. Much better looking, smaller on the shelf, lighter. Cheaper too.


How on earth is a paper map better looking than a mounted board?
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79strat wrote:
Sagrilarus wrote:

These days I'm preferring unmounted. Much better looking, smaller on the shelf, lighter. Cheaper too.


How on earth is a paper map better looking than a mounted board?


Why wouldn't it be? Thicker is prettier?
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I also greatly prefer unmounted boards/maps, especially if they've been stiffly laminated. Lighter, crisper, won't warp, won't rock on the table, no hinge wrinkle, no back-bending, perfectly flat...

Sagrilarus wrote:
As far as I know only wargame companies are holding out, and they're surrendering as well.


Several 18xx publishers, such as Double-O Games or Marflow Games, use unmounted board (unlaminated in Double-O Games's case or stiffly laminated paper in Marflow Games's case).
 
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