C Sandifer
United States
Lutherville
Maryland
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Some cards are worded like the following:
"Choose an Ally you have played this turn..."
Here, it's obvious that the Ally must have already been played.
Other cards are worded like so:
"If you play an Item..." (Luna Lovegood)
"If you play another Ally..." (Fleur Delacour)
Do these cards count previously played cards, or only cards played afterwards?
E.g., I play an Ally, then Fleur. Do I get the bonus or not?
(Other deckbuilding games specify "play or have played", but Hogwarts doesn't take this approach.)
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Skip Mathias
United States
Waukesha
Wisconsin
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I believe that "If you play another Ally..." it means, "an Ally who is not this card." And the Luna card effect starts when the card is played.
So the short answer is no, you have to play the specific card after Luna and Fleur have been played.
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B C Z
United States
Reston
Virginia
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This is actually one I'm going to wait for the company rep to answer - it affects many cards.
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Jason Webster
United States
Connecticut
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I Agree with Skip but welcome and official answers
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C Sandifer
United States
Lutherville
Maryland
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Dnasearchr wrote: I Agree with Skip but welcome and official answers
Players have argued both ways. It's tough to know if this is what the designers really mean, or if they're being loose with language.
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Jason Webster
United States
Connecticut
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If people are questioning it and can argue both ways credibly than it is probably a little loose with language.
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Andrew Wolf
United States
Carlsbad
Unspecified
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byronczimmer wrote: This is actually one I'm going to wait for the company rep to answer - it affects many cards.
The intent is that these cards create floating triggers, and they look backwards and forwards. If you play an Item and then play Luna, or play Luna and then play an Item, you get the extra effect.
If you play Ron's Every Flavour Beans, you get 1 ATTACK for each Ally you play that turn, both before and after you play the Beans.
Andrew Wolf
Game Designer - USAopoly
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David Jones
United States
Wilsonville
Oregon
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nethershadow wrote: floating triggers
I like this term. We need to start using it more often.
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C Sandifer
United States
Lutherville
Maryland
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nethershadow wrote: The intent is that these cards create floating triggers, and they look backwards and forwards. If you play an Item and then play Luna, or play Luna and then play an Item, you get the extra effect.
Thanks! This issue has come up multiple times as a result of card-drawing (e.g., if Luna is the last card that you play due to a card-drawing effect), so it's nice to know the official answer.
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Andrew Wolf
United States
Carlsbad
Unspecified
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davypi wrote: nethershadow wrote: floating triggers I like this term. We need to start using it more often.
I used to work on TCG development so that's where I picked it up :)
It's not something designers like to lean on too much, as it asks games to have memory, but I think it is ok to use sparingly and when appropriate. The converse is that you have to be really specific about how you sequence your plays, and that can be unfun or feel punishing when you mess up.
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David Jones
United States
Wilsonville
Oregon
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nethershadow wrote: It's not something designers like to lean on too much, as it asks games to have memory, but I think it is ok to use sparingly and when appropriate. The converse is that you have to be really specific about how you sequence your plays, and that can be unfun or feel punishing when you mess up.
Oh, I'm not suggesting that the mechanic itself needs to be used more often. But the phrase "if you play or have played" is long and wordy, as is other ways I have seen this concept expressed. Floating trigger is short and elegant and would make conversations easier if the gaming community adopted the term (or maybe they have and I'm just out of touch).
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B C Z
United States
Reston
Virginia
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nethershadow wrote: byronczimmer wrote: This is actually one I'm going to wait for the company rep to answer - it affects many cards. The intent is that these cards create floating triggers, and they look backwards and forwards. If you play an Item and then play Luna, or play Luna and then play an Item, you get the extra effect. If you play Ron's Every Flavour Beans, you get 1 ATTACK for each Ally you play that turn, both before and after you play the Beans. Andrew Wolf Game Designer - USAopoly
Exactly how we've been playing it. Good. 
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Ohad Ouziel
Israel
Tel Aviv
Israel
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I am still a little unclear about Luna - does the effect trigger every time you play an item or just once per turn?
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David Jones
United States
Wilsonville
Oregon
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Just once. The wording on her card is "If you play an item..." not "For each item played..."
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