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What does he 'propose' in its place then? Opposing Millennials even
 
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lol he thinks the internet was developed "largely without interference from the government"
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It's an honest libertarian position coming from an honest libertarian guy. Makes sense.

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Befitting his broadly anti-government attitude, Johnson has been critical of efforts by the federal government to regulate the internet, including net neutrality. "Net neutrality sounds great on paper, but the reality is that it is the start of government control of the internet," Johnson said in an interview in 2011. "And, of course, as with every act of intervention by the government, this specific example would have unintended consequences. It will end up with the restriction of the Internet. I'm not the guy who wants to regulate [the internet] or pass legislation that might do that."

GJ's point (which has historical merit) is: Once you let government put its paws on something, that is giving them de facto rights to continue putting paws on that something in the future. So maybe today you praise the government for saving you from the evils of Verizon's fast-lane, but what happens when Trump gets elected president and proceeds to pass laws against who can and can't even have access at all. But by then it's too late, because you've already kicked that door down and given government the keys to the castle.

The more we keep government in a very small box on the table, the more we can keep an eye on it. Once you let that genie out of the bottle, it has the ability to turn the USA into China.
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fightcitymayor wrote:
It's an honest libertarian position coming from an honest libertarian guy. Makes sense.

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Befitting his broadly anti-government attitude, Johnson has been critical of efforts by the federal government to regulate the internet, including net neutrality. "Net neutrality sounds great on paper, but the reality is that it is the start of government control of the internet," Johnson said in an interview in 2011. "And, of course, as with every act of intervention by the government, this specific example would have unintended consequences. It will end up with the restriction of the Internet. I'm not the guy who wants to regulate [the internet] or pass legislation that might do that."

GJ's point (which has historical merit) is: Once you let government put its paws on something, that is giving them de facto rights to continue putting paws on that something in the future. So maybe today you praise the government for saving you from the evils of Verizon's fast-lane, but what happens when Trump gets elected president and proceeds to pass laws against who can and can't even have access at all. But by then it's too late, because you've already kicked that door down and given government the keys to the castle.

The more we keep government in a very small box on the table, the more we can keep an eye on it. Once you let that genie out of the bottle, it has the ability to turn the USA into China.


Yes/no, it's a risk of whose going to muck it up more. Unless we break up monopoly access of ISPs to regions so that people can always switch to an alternate provider, I'd rather have government oversight to keep comcast at bay.
 
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lol he thinks the internet was developed "largely without interference from the government"
shake He's NOT the only one, it would appear apparently ABOVE! whistle
 
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Yes/no, it's a risk of whose going to muck it up more. Unless we break up monopoly access of ISPs to regions so that people can always switch to an alternate provider, I'd rather have government oversight to keep comcast at bay.
The libertarian position would be to bust up those local cable/telco monopolies.

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lol he thinks the internet was developed "largely without interference from the government"
I think the operative word here is "developed." Obviously the internet has its roots in government programs, but once the "world wide web" was unleashed it was able to flourish partly because government kept its hands off. Taxes were kept away, moral scolds were kept away, rigid classifications were kept away, and it has prospered and evolved on its own. Mostly free from government interference, except that pesky surveillance, of course. Which brings us back to how much control you want to cede to a federal government that has proven it won't limit the snooping it has been given the power to do.
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