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This article claims that many 'liberal' commentators were relatively late to recognise Trump as a potentially worse threat to American democracy than some other candidates- e.g. Cruz.

http://thefederalist.com/2016/10/24/liberals-adored-trump-wi...

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I am somewhat curious if candidates who may pose an existential threat to democracy in their society are sometimes be harder to recognise than those adhering to partisan lines. There are some examples in classical literature, and even something like Brexit cuts across party lines to form a sort of negative social protest which existing parties try to nervously harness while not getting consumed. The difficulty which many major political machines have adjusting to changing social conditions leaves plenty of potential energy for future demagogues and populists like Duterte, who can feed on the free publicity of the 24 hour news cycle (which has been accused of inciting instability in places like India, the world's largest democracy: https://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/oct/24/hype-india-mar...).
 
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I think there were many people on the Democrat side who were polishing Trump because they really wanted him to face their candidate as he was the lowest risk GOP candidate to beat Clinton. Then, when the primaries were all but over, they turned on him and started harping on his many serious faults. Many assessments of Trump early on were more based on politics than revealing him as a threat to Democracy. It may have shot them in the foot a little as he has been more popular than they expected. Is he a threat now? Probably not, but I bet they were scared for a few weeks there before he started to justifying everyone's revulsion of him.
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Interesting. In the end they seem to have shot themselves in the foot less than he did... Monbiot gives a different view today, that Trump is not so much an outsider as modern politics turned up to 11.

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2016/oct/26/donald...
 
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The thing about populists is that they have to pretend they are not the members of the elite they really are. In the UK Farage is from the same background as the other party leaders (except May now) but wants to be seen in pubs drinking bitter. Trump was always a multi-millionaire but somehow persuades blue collar workers he is their champion despite zero evidence he has done anything for them in the past.
 
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Paul Harding wrote:
This article claims that many 'liberal' commentators were relatively late to recognise Trump as a potentially worse threat to American democracy than some other candidates- e.g. Cruz.

http://thefederalist.com/2016/10/24/liberals-adored-trump-wi...

Do you believe this to be true?

I am somewhat curious if candidates who may pose an existential threat to democracy in their society are sometimes be harder to recognise than those adhering to partisan lines. There are some examples in classical literature, and even something like Brexit cuts across party lines to form a sort of negative social protest which existing parties try to nervously harness while not getting consumed. The difficulty which many major political machines have adjusting to changing social conditions leaves plenty of potential energy for future demagogues and populists like Duterte, who can feed on the free publicity of the 24 hour news cycle (which has been accused of inciting instability in places like India, the world's largest democracy: https://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/oct/24/hype-india-mar...).


Threat to democracy? I suppose so.

I think Cruz would have been a far worse threat to America in general, though.

(in before snark like "haha no democracy for libruls")
 
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