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An opinion piece, but a very informative "explainer" with lots of links and quotes.

http://observer.com/2016/10/democratic-party-operative-rober...

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Let’s be blunt: Democratic Party operative Robert Creamer used terror to wage war on honesty. Until forced to resign his post as a “consultant” with a Democratic Party-aligned organization named Americans United for Change, Creamer ran what amounts to a domestic U.S. political terror and propaganda operation dedicated to undermining the 2016 U.S. presidential election—“rigging the election,” to use the current term.

Yes, Creamer’s operation uses terror—and three investigative videos recently released by Project Veritas contain information supporting my assessment.

Creamer resigned as an official consultant because Part One and Part Two exposed him. His operation, however, remains active and continues to do damage. The election rigging scheme he commanded relies on street thuggery. That means physical fear—terror—is a core component of Americans United for Change’s crooked enterprise. Street thuggery is very low-level terrorism, but it is a type of terrorism nonetheless and it is wrong to call it otherwise. Hardboy muscle, bottles and two by fours are street thuggery’s kinetics. Bottles and baseball bats are not Al Qaeda’s high explosives—but they incite fear and when they crack heads they cause casualties. People bleed. Street thuggery as an arm of politics is violent, criminalized politics on an ugly downward slope to much worse, the worse including lynchings and pogroms. If you don’t think street thuggery is terror then consider Kristalnacht.

Creamer and his despicable compadres haven’t killed anyone, not yet. But this year Creamer and his operatives have used the terror of actual physical attack and a supporting suite of provocation tactics (threat tactics) to successfully shatter several lawful political rallies held by Republican candidates. Creamer’s media component insures that the violence committed by Creamer thugs and the violence they provoked generates sensational violent imagery and sensational reports of violence for dissemination by other media. The result is sensational propaganda benefiting the Democratic Party and its fawning media. See those Republicans? See the violence??!!

A vicious enterprise? Yes, through and through. The despicable scheme wages all-out war on honesty.

. . .

Time Magazine had to diss Project Veritas’ James O’Keefe, but that’s expected. O’Keefe’s a rebel upstart and Time is a mainstream outfit that favors liberals. Time is the fuddy duddy establishment that didn’t do the investigative field work. “Lots of tape not much context,” Time sniffed as it began its assessment.

Yet Time’s article undermines its own silly sniff. The context is omnipresent. The attacks on Trump supporters are fact. Creamer and The Hideous Scott Foval have resigned and run—and that is context.

I’ve gone through the Project Veritas videos. They are linked at the top of this essay.

They’re fascinating. I’ll hit some highlights.

Early in Part One The Hideous Scott Foval crows that Americans United for Change has a telephone “text conversation that never ends” which ultimately links to the Democratic National Committee. At 2:54 he tells an undercover Project Veritas reporter that “I am contracted to him [Bob Creamer], but I answer to the head of Special Events for the DNC and the head of special events and political for the campaign.” The campaign is Hillary Clinton’s campaign, the one John Podesta chairs.

One of the highlights in Part Two comes early, at 43 seconds, when an excited Creamer operative says “We’ve been bussing in people for 50 years and were not going to stop now.” What’s he talking about? Massive voter fraud. Oh yes, fraud of the size that steals elections.

Proceed through the video and The Hideous Scott Foval provides a “how we do it guide” to election rigging.

At 3:40 The Hideous Scott Foval minimizes the possibility of being prosecuted for voter fraud. Sure, moving people across state lines to vote illegally is illegal but “Who would they charge?” The Hideous Scott Foval asks.

From 4:20 through roughly 5:05 The Hideous Scott Foval discusses some of the intricacies of illegal mass voting. “…They prove a conspiracy If there’s a bus…” he says. But see, Robert Creamer and The Hideous Scott Foval are smart and these techniques are proven, tested by Democrats in 50 years of elections.

The Hideous Scott Foval says his team uses shell companies to hide the operation. At 5:30 he says car companies provide individual cars, the paychecks for fake voters come from another company.

Part Three links Hillary to Creamer’s campaign malfeasance. Around 4:00 Creamer and other operatives are discussing introducing a “Chicken George” character to the 2016 election. In 1992 a mocking mascot named Chicken George heckled George H. W. Bush. What character should heckle Donald Trump? At 4:20 Creamer credits Hillary Clinton herself with insisting on ducks—Donald Ducks.

How clever of Hillary!!!! Hah hah hah.

At 7:40 The Hideous Scott Foval says that the Donald Duck characters will engage in “aggressive bird dogging.” The heckling operation includes disruptive ringing phones.

The Duck Clincher occurs around 10:00 as Creamer says that ABC—which is owned by Disney—had an issue with using Donald Duck. Donna Brazile didn’t want Donald Duck tied to the DNC. So they tied the duck to Americans United For Change.

Follow the video to the end. Clearly the DNC and Americans United For Change have coordinated operations. Their duck muck violates election laws. These people are despicable. They’re Hillary’s Utterly Despicables.

* * *

Where’s the outrage?

Christian Adams succinctly excoriated mainstream media disinterest on Fox and Friends (as quoted by The American Thinker):

Look, if this was a tea party group coordinating with the Trump campaign to incite violence at Clinton rallies or NAACP events or whatever, we know exactly what would be happening. This would be Justice Department fully investigating this for civil rights violations and all sorts of things. This is a Justice Department and an FBI that is dolling out justice based on your politics. If you support Clinton, if you are Clinton, you can engage in all sorts of misbehavior without consequence. If you are the IRS commissioner or an attorney general who is held in criminal contempt, he would give you a pass. You don’t face justice under this administration.

Well said. If you’re a Democrat crook, in Obama’s Crooked Era you escape accountability for dreadful crimes. This is despicable. Utterly despicable.


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Didn't Project Veritas do that hit job on Homer Simpson?




edit: video fixed, thanks casey
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Pretty far from pretty legit.
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Altair IV wrote:
Pretty far from pretty legit.


Why do you think so?
 
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Sarxis wrote:
Altair IV wrote:
Pretty far from pretty legit.


Why do you think so?


Because it violates his safe space.
 
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TheDashi wrote:
Sarxis wrote:
Altair IV wrote:
Pretty far from pretty legit.


Why do you think so?


Because it violates his safe space.

Trump's fake charity gave them $10k. I think that qualifies as a quid pro quo.
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jmilum wrote:
TheDashi wrote:
Sarxis wrote:
Altair IV wrote:
Pretty far from pretty legit.


Why do you think so?


Because it violates his safe space.

Trump's fake charity gave them $10k. I think that qualifies as a quid pro quo.



post Brexit given the way the pounds sinking under the Cons, it will likely be 2 quids to your pro.
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A reminder that The Observer is owned by Jared Kushner, who is the husband of Ivanka Trump.
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"Consume information from only approved sources, citizen!"
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Drew1365 wrote:
"Consume information from only approved sources, citizen!"


Complains about biased media conspiracy, posts things from obvious biased media.
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Drew1365 wrote:
"Consume information from only approved sources, citizen!"


Are you being ironic?
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I'd really like to take some of these claims at face value because if they were true would be pretty damning, but the delivery feels so skeevy and manipluated, not to mention manipulative, that I am not sure that what I am watching or hearing is accurate enough to get outraged about. I feel dirty after watching those videos. Can't Project Veritas attempt to report in just a little straight forward and direct of a method? They make Michael Moore seem like Walter Cronkite.
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lfisher wrote:
Drew1365 wrote:
"Consume information from only approved sources, citizen!"


Complains about biased media conspiracy, posts things from obvious biased media.


Do you think people should only consume information from sources that favor Hillary?

 
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Drew1365 wrote:
"Consume information from only approved sources, citizen!"

better than consuming information from a known fraud
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anyway here are my comments on the first video (not that drew would care - he only reads posts from approved users)

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we "leftists" have to deal with agents provocateurs at pretty much every rally so its nice to see the right-wingers outraged over a tactic (perfectly legal btw) whose results they bought hook line and sinker during occupy for example
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the rest of the video tries to paint as shady business the funneling of money and coordination between supposedly independent political organizations financing campaigns which is also legal and implicitly approved by everyone supporting the citizens united ruling
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This "veritas" is like the "D" in the DDR and the DPRK.
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This "veritas" is like the "D" in the DDR and the DPRK.


It's *project* it's still in deep alpha, someday there will be a veritas.
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Project Veritas?

Whenever someone has to tell you they're telling the truth you can usually rest assured that they aren't.

It's true!

Honestly!

For really reals this time!

Would I lie?

Stick a needle in my eye?

You can believe me!

Yeah...
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Drew1365 wrote:
lfisher wrote:
Drew1365 wrote:
"Consume information from only approved sources, citizen!"


Complains about biased media conspiracy, posts things from obvious biased media.


Do you think people should only consume information from sources that favor Hillary?



No.

But I also don't believe that every source favors Hillary.
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Project Veritas?

Whenever someone has to tell you they're telling the truth you can usually rest assured that they aren't.

It's true!

Honestly!

For really reals this time!

Would I lie?

Stick a needle in my eye?

You can believe me!

Yeah...


I dunno, thetruthnews.info looks pretty good...

 
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A reminder that The Observer is owned by Jared Kushner, who is the husband of Ivanka Trump.
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Doc Mage wrote:
wifwendell wrote:
A reminder that The Observer is owned by Jared Kushner, who is the husband of Ivanka Trump.


A reminder that that doesn't make the information false.
 
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mrspank wrote:
Drew1365 wrote:
"Consume information from only approved sources, citizen!"


Are you being ironic?


It is quite obvious he doesn't know what ironic is...or that it even IS.
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Sarxis wrote:
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Pretty far from pretty legit.


Why do you think so?



Well, discredited and known liar posting a discredited and known liar.

Not even a hint of pretty or legit.

You can't be able to verify your sources for it to be "pretty legit". The source has to be secret AND posted by a guy that just makes shit up and then doubles down on it.



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