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Took him long enough.

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Walking on eggshells is not my style
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Interesting.

One liberal switches parties. I applaud your highlighting stories of such import.

Ohhh look. Here's something far less interesting.

http://www.thepoliticalinsider.com/trump-gets-unexpected-ann...

25% of blacks?
 
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Koldfoot wrote:
Interesting.

One liberal switches parties. I applaud your highlighting stories of such import.

Ohhh look. Here's something far less interesting.

http://www.thepoliticalinsider.com/trump-gets-unexpected-ann...

25% of blacks?


Perhaps you should have checked the date on that.

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As for his standing in the polls among blacks, Trump is right that one poll showed him with 25 percent support in a hypothetical general election race against Clinton. But it wasn’t a “recent poll.” It was a SurveyUSA Poll from Sept. 2-3, 2015. Jay H. Leve, founder of SurveyUSA, told us that the margin of error was plus or minus 10 percentage points, as is usually the case for a subset of poll respondents.
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Koldfoot wrote:
Interesting.

One liberal switches parties. I applaud your highlighting stories of such import.


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lfisher wrote:
Koldfoot wrote:
Interesting.

One liberal switches parties. I applaud your highlighting stories of such import.

Ohhh look. Here's something far less interesting.

http://www.thepoliticalinsider.com/trump-gets-unexpected-ann...

25% of blacks?


Perhaps you should have checked the date on that.

Quote:
As for his standing in the polls among blacks, Trump is right that one poll showed him with 25 percent support in a hypothetical general election race against Clinton. But it wasn’t a “recent poll.” It was a SurveyUSA Poll from Sept. 2-3, 2015. Jay H. Leve, founder of SurveyUSA, told us that the margin of error was plus or minus 10 percentage points, as is usually the case for a subset of poll respondents.


Saw a link today to Rasmussen stating the same thing.

Grabbed the wrong one when I googled it.

Info is still good.

Edit: well shit. In the interest of full disclosure (take notes Mac) I have this news feed app that came loaded on my iPhone.

I frequently peruse it. Very often, more than half the time, when I click on an interesting story it fails to load. I saw the headline and the first couple lines of it, clicked and it failed to load. I thought it would be an interesting contrast to Mac's big news. So I googled it, glanced at the result and thought it was the same story in a different paper.

I'm can't find the story I noted in the news feed, and the story from Rasmussen seems to be for paid subscribers only.

Admonishment accepted.
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shake Yeah, at which 'point' had their "deplorable dispicablenesses basket"-overflowing BEEN the 'decisionitive' for THAT then? I'd state it had been quite LAX previously, as well.
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It kind of feels like both parties are beginning to splinter into two. The Republicans are stuck between the rabid derangement of the alt-right, and the more vintage church-and-croquet crowd. Meanwhile, Democratic sure thing Hillary Clinton almost got run off the road by a shouty old hippie from Vermont. The young and/or liberal wing of the party is tired of having to compromise everything they care about because the oppositional party never does. They've gone from the New Deal to table scraps.
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eaglebeak wrote:
It kind of feels like both parties are beginning to splinter into two. The Republicans are stuck between the rabid derangement of the alt-right, and the more vintage church-and-croquet crowd. Meanwhile, Democratic sure thing Hillary Clinton almost got run off the road by a shouty old hippie from Vermont. The young and/or liberal wing of the party is tired of having to compromise everything they care about because the oppositional party never does. They've gone from the New Deal to table scraps.


There is a bit of a difference. Sanders lefty followers (naive, idealistic, soft headed) are a lot more acceptable and desirable than Trump's righty followers (old fashioned racists, altright racists, and theocrats).

I don't see the democrats splitting as long as they incorporate some of Sanders planks. Most are not toxic (help citizens with college debt, public health care, less war activity).

The republicans are actively attacking each other. Heck right here we have a long term conservative writer toss in the towel and suddenly he's a liberal- not even a RINO- and too hell with him! It's like the party isn't even trying to retain moderate republicans any more.

If the far right side successfully drives out the moderates, they'll be left with 20% or less of the senate and house at best. And they'll have much less than half the votes in most elections. We might even end up with a three party system for a while. Basically a 40%, a 25% classic republican party, a 20% racist theocratic party, and 15% independents.

If that happens, I suspect the classic republican party slice would mooch voters away from the right side of the democratic party after 8-10 years.
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maxo-texas wrote:

There is a bit of a difference. Sanders lefty followers (naive, idealistic, soft headed) are a lot more acceptable and desirable than Trump's righty followers (old fashioned racists, altright racists, and theocrats).


Oh, certainly. I didn't mean to imply any equivalence between Sanders Democrats ("higher wages and cheaper tuitions!") and the armchair psychopaths of the alt-right, beyond their mutual dissatisfaction with their respective default parties.

I'd honestly love to see a four-party system. Give people some options. Progressive Party (left), Democratic Party (center), Republicans (right), and the Alt-Right, so America's racist uncles and embittered white kids have a room of their own.
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shake Yeah, at which 'point' had their "deplorable dispicablenesses basket"-overflowing BEEN the 'decisionitive' for THAT then? I'd state it had been quite LAX previously, as well.


Will the Democrats counter them them with their brown people and women ?
 
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GROGnads wrote:
shake Yeah, at which 'point' had their "deplorable dispicablenesses basket"-overflowing BEEN the 'decisionitive' for THAT then? I'd state it had been quite LAX previously, as well.
jeremycobert wrote:
Will the Democrats counter them them with their brown people and women ?
Y-O-U MUST then "approve" with A-L-L of their 'deplorable dispositions' and represent a plain 'wastebasketcase' of those.
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