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Eric Burden
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How is Battle Above the Clouds as an entry point in the GCACW series?

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Mike W
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Excellent.

Specifically:
* Is in print
* One of the more "stand alone" titles in the series, although they are all stand alone
* Is more balanced between the Union and Confederate units than many of the eastern theatre games.
* Has a nice mix of smaller and larger scenarios
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Chris Montgomery
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I would say that after having played Battle Above the Clouds and Stonewall Jackson's Way II pretty extensively, I think that SJWII is a better entry point for the following reasons:

1. Terrain seems to be easier than BAC for new players (personal opinion).
2. There are fewer module specific rules in SJWII -- BAC has more special exceptions to the Standard Rules and some of them can be a pain to remember.
3. There are TWO modules in SJWII -- so you get a *lot* more content, including multiple full-campaign scenarios.
4. The full campaign in SJWII for 1861 (All Green Alike) is very short compared to the Advanced games in BAC, making SJWII a great first-timer module for the advanced (campaign) game, too.
5. The All Green Alike module in SJWII has multiple "Advanced Game" scenarios of shorter and longer lengths.
6. SJWII is still in print (IIRC) for about the same price as BAC.
7. Whilst both of the intro scenarios in each module are good for learning, I think SJWII has more interesting ones (personal opinion).
8. If you end up collecting the whole system, SJWII's map will integrate into the maps from the other modules to give you a large theater of war -- for which it is rumored there will be some scenarios to combine maps from different modules (there were some already, but more and larger ones to come). BAC's maps currently are only useful for it's module alone.

Others may disagree, but if you can only buy one, I would highly recommend SJWII as one of the best beginner modules for the series.

Edit: Finished #5 and corrected some grammar issues. Also addded #8.
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Patrick Pence
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Chris beat me to it. laugh I concur.
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robert lindsay
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The one downside to SJWII is that some scenarios require you to have maps from the other games in the series. This can be annoying.
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Dane P
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What if you've never played any civil war wargame (but I'm a veteran of WW2 gaming), your sister-in-law lives 20 minutes from Chickamauga/Lookout Mountain, and you want to get familiar with this title because you visit Chickamauga regularly (I get to ride my bicycle around it every year, but I digress.)

I really want to see the battlefield in a new way via a game about it.
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Then you'll want BAC.

It would be nice, I think, to ride, drive, or hike around the area with a copy of the BAC map (or a duplicate).

These games are rich in history, and a good gateway into understanding the campaigns (and I'm primarily a WWII guy, too).
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