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Subject: Saga Expansions and card use rss

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Jesse B
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Hey guys, new player here. I'm sure this has been answered elsewhere but I'm having trouble confirming it for myself.

I know (or at least think I know) the saga expansions form a campaign narrative and that some cards are used just for that campaign arc or specific scenario.

But in general the cards that come with the sagas can be used to play the scenarios from the deluxe expansions and adventure packs, right? There are not two pools of cards, ones for the sagas and ones for the other expansions with the core set being common to both pools, right?

Just wanting to make sure before I invest in the sagas, which I'm most interested in.
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Josh Murphy
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Yep. There are only a few that can't be used out of the sagas
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Jesse B
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jomurph86 wrote:
Yep. There are only a few that can't be used out of the sagas


Great! Thanks for the reply. Didn't want to assume and then be disappointed.
 
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Dale Stephenson
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Here's the numbers that can be played outside the saga (not pipe/fellowship cards or boon/treasures):

OHUH: Beorn, Nori, Ori, Thorin heroes, + 13 player cards.
OtDS: Balin, Bard, Bombur heroes, + 13 player cards.
TBR: Sam, TaMerry, LoPippin, Fatty heroes + 10 player cards.
TRD: Gandalf hero + 7 player cards.
ToS: SpTheoden and Treebeard heroes + 10 player cards.
LoS: LeFaramir and Damrod heroes + 9 player cards.
FtoW: TaEowyn and SpBeregond heroes + 9 player cards.

For comparison, a typical deluxe expansion has 2 heroes and 13 player cards, while a typical adventure pack has 1 hero and 9 player cards. You can see that the LOTR sagas are more stinting with the player cards than the Hobbit saga was, but they all include some great cards.
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Hey Dale, just to be clear - you're not saying that the pipe cards in the saga expansions are only playable within the sagas are you?
 
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Vladimir Lehotai
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Yes, he's saying that. And he is correct.
 
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Titus M
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Well it's Dale, so I'm not at all surprised that he's correct. But I can't remember anything stating the pipe cards were incompatible with the regular card pool, especially as they aren't fellowship cards. Looking at TBR insert, they state "a select few [cards] are only intended for use when playing the scenarios presented in [the] Saga Expansions. These are the Fellowship sphere cards... as well as the boon cards."

Nothing about pipes.
 
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Chris McDonald
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He's talking about the 'pipe' sphere cards from the Hobbit expansions. They are only usable with the Bilbo from the Hobbit games, which is only used in those scenarios.
 
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The Baggins sphere. Ok, I'm on board now.

Sad that you can't too - it has the best sphere icon whistle
 
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Dale Stephenson
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Yes, sorry for being unclear. It's the baggins sphere that's off-limit. Hobbit Pipe and Wizard Pipe are certainly legal player cards -- and we could really use another pipe or two for the main card pool.

Although technically not allowed, I don't think it would be gamebreaking to use the fellowship/baggins sphere outside the saga -- the few player cards would make the off-sphere a substantial handicap. Here's how I'd handle it:

1) OHUH Bilbo -- no threat cost. With only downsides on his printed card, he needs *something*.

2) OtDS Bilbo -- threat cost 6 (sum of stats). Since he doesn't count against the hero limit (printed on card), I think charging for him is appropriate.

3) saga Frodos -- threat cost 8 (sum of stats + 1), but start with One Ring attached -- this makes his powerful ability useful and gives him an outlet for his resources, plus makes him not count against the hero limit -- but also makes an attachment-discarding effect game-losing.

4) saga Aragorns -- threat cost 12 (sum of stats). Unlike OtDS Bilbo and Frodo w. ring he counts against the hero limit. His abilities are nice, but not so overpowered compared to his other versions to justify a higher threat, especially given the limitations of his sphere.
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Jesse B
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dalestephenson wrote:
Here's the numbers that can be played outside the saga (not pipe/fellowship cards or boon/treasures):

OHUH: Beorn, Nori, Ori, Thorin heroes, + 13 player cards.
OtDS: Balin, Bard, Bombur heroes, + 13 player cards.
TBR: Sam, TaMerry, LoPippin, Fatty heroes + 10 player cards.
TRD: Gandalf hero + 7 player cards.
ToS: SpTheoden and Treebeard heroes + 10 player cards.
LoS: LeFaramir and Damrod heroes + 9 player cards.
FtoW: TaEowyn and SpBeregond heroes + 9 player cards.

For comparison, a typical deluxe expansion has 2 heroes and 13 player cards, while a typical adventure pack has 1 hero and 9 player cards. You can see that the LOTR sagas are more stinting with the player cards than the Hobbit saga was, but they all include some great cards.


Great info. Thank you.
 
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William Wilting
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How about the Treasure cards?
 
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0616william wrote:
How about the Treasure cards?

Saga only.
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