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Stephen Michael Hickey
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I would always like to choose between the Beginner Corporation and two of the advanced Corporations at the start of the game. The standard rules force players to choose one or the other.

You can still advise first time players to choose the Beginner Corp. but there may be times when having those 10 cards for free is the better option.

Maybe that is the point. The Beginner Corporation is designed to give an advantage to new players.
 
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Örjan Almén
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Yes, that's right. the main issue on why you should select beginner corporation before looking at the cards is that you otherwise get a great way to pick all 10 cards for free if you got a better hand than average, instead of paying for it.
 
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Jonathan Fryxelius
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The Beginner Corporation mainly fills twwo purposes;
1. It lets new players skip the strategic choice of which cards to keep from their starting hand. This lowers the learning curve, and protects them from making bad choices early on.
2. It gives new players a flying start with a lot of cards and a lot of money, to be able to compete against skilled players with regular corporations.

Also, because they have no ongoing effect, they are easier to keep track of. However, they are also more random, because what cards you get is random. With other corporations, this evens out, because if you don't want the cards, you keep money instead.

Experienced players should NOT play Beginner Corporations. Mostly because they are more random. An experienced player should depend on his own skills more than the starting hand. Also, when you know the game, the regular corporations are simply much more fun.
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J Vomkrieg
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Interesting factoid from my play group.

In 3 games with 5 players, each with 1 "beginner corp" vs 4 veteran players. The Beginner has finished no lower than 3rd.

They then do worse in their first game with a real corp before, in their 3rd game gaining parity with most of the group.

 
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Matt D
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This is totally not scientific at all, but I've played two games, and in both cases selected a standard corp. I honestly don't even know what the beginner corps do, I don't own the game and the person who owned it wanted us to play all with advanced.

I won my first game (which I am told seems to happen often, and then they can't reproduce their luck - perhaps they meant their first game was using the beginning's corp), and then should have tied for first on the second one except there was a hiccup somehow in turn order and I ended up not being able to increase my TR by one because someone maxed out a feature ahead of their turn and we didn't catch it until late.

 
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Peter W.
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Played a game with 3 "veterans" with standard corp. and one beginner with beginner corp sometimes ago. He won! I think that the fact you're starting with 1 production in every slot and ten cards is like you'r playing golf against a player with lower handicap.
 
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Örjan Almén
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papadjango wrote:
Played a game with 3 "veterans" with standard corp. and one beginner with beginner corp sometimes ago. He won! I think that the fact you're starting with 1 production in every slot and ten cards is like you'r playing golf against a player with lower handicap.


But all players start with the same production. It doesn't depend on the corporation but on whether the Corporation Era Deck is included or not. If the deck is included, all start on 0 or if it isn't all start on 1. (and then add each corporation add their special start values)
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Jonathan Fryxelius
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Örjan is completely right here. Starting production only depends on the inclusion of the Corporate Era cards. The only differences between Beginner Corporations and the others is that the Beginner Corporation are;
1. The Beginner corporation is chosen before the 10 cards are dealt. (If you do not want to play with a Beginner Corporation, you get 2 random corporations along with your 10 cards and choose a corporation and starting hand at the same time).
2. The Beginner Corporation keeps all 10 cards for free.
3. The Beginner Corporation has no on-going effect.
 
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