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Jules Redmand
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Is it possible that this game can be played solitaire or do the mechanics of the game make it an unlikely prospect?
 
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Dawn Raider wrote:
Is it possible that this game can be played solitaire or do the mechanics of the game make it an unlikely prospect?


I can't personally imagine a version of the game that would be satisfying as a solo endeavor.
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manydills wrote:
Dawn Raider wrote:
Is it possible that this game can be played solitaire or do the mechanics of the game make it an unlikely prospect?


I can't personally imagine a version of the game that would be satisfying as a solo endeavor.


Agreed.
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Dawn Raider wrote:
Is it possible that this game can be played solitaire or do the mechanics of the game make it an unlikely prospect?

I don't fully understand your question. I mean, it's a typical card game where each player has a hand of cards hidden from his opponent(s). Theoretically any game is playable solitaire if you control both sides. But much of the skill and all of the surprise are eliminated, rendering the experience quite unsatisfying, in my opinion.
 
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Colm McCarthy
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It's a very mean game, best enjoyed with mean opponents
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Jules Redmand
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I asked the question because I saw that with the Cthulhu card game that their was a solitaire ruleset that I believe somebody had put together. Given the fact though, that Cthulhu Arkham is about to come out and that is solitaire friendly that has solved my solitaire problem with that game.

I thought I'd fire the question for GoT just in case there was a solo possibility out there
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Colm McCarthy
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Dawn Raider wrote:
I asked the question because I saw that with the Cthulhu card game that their was a solitaire ruleset that I believe somebody had put together. Given the fact though, that Cthulhu Arkham is about to come out and that is solitaire friendly that has solved my solitaire problem with that game.

I thought I'd fire the question for GoT just in case there was a solo possibility out there


I wish. It's a terrific game, and I could use the practice as my opponents always shaft me.

EDIT: Hmm...I guess someone did design a solo variant for it, but I've never tried it. I can't imagine it could be that satisfying.

https://boardgamegeek.com/thread/1262425/solo-play-modifying...
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Thanks Colm this is exactly the kind of thing I was looking for Eventually I'll have another player to play against but for now it's solo.
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I would be very pleased to see someone update the Quintain solo variant for the Second Edition.
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Yes, the solo AI system developed by Ricky Royal for the 1st edition (aka "Quintain"), was very ingenious and worked well for those times when a human opponent simply wasn't available, or for when you wanted to practice on your own without anyone watching!

But as others have discovered, there are just enough changes in the 2ed that Quintain doesn't work very well in its current form. I asked Ricky if he plans to update Quintain for the 2ed, and he didn't exactly say, "No". His reply was more of a, "I want to, but can't promise anything".

Still, for anyone who doubts the game can be played solo... perhaps that may be true for the 2nd ed ... but it was definitely not true for the 1st ed, as Quintain provided for an able opponent.

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What's the main issue with the solitaire rules for the second version of the game?
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Dawn Raider wrote:
What's the main issue with the solitaire rules for the second version of the game?

I assume it has to do with the major changes to the AGoT rules between the two editions:

- Reserve value
- Management of attachments
- Influence resource type removed
- Higher gold cost curve
- Change to keywords & removal of some keywords

I don't think that any one or two of the above changes would necessarily make the "Quintain" solo AI unusable for the 2nd edition, but when taken in totality they do serve as a significant obstacle.

So better to revise the AI design to better handle all the above changes.

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If only someone can do a solo ruleset for 2nd edition...

I know that there are some changes to deal with but hey, would be really really great if we can play solo...
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I guess the main issue for solo play is the instant/event cards that one would spring upon your opponent. Can you surprise yourself if you play solo?

Well, I have played all seven factions in Scythe and found it quite satisfying, but had a bit of a headache afterwards from adopting multiple faction personalities!

I think you just have to face it that games that aren't crafted for solo play, tend not to be playable solo successfully.

Need to get some local friends who like board games, and are prepared to bring something to the table in terms of wit, enthusiasm, booze, and manners, while leaving behind any flatulence, personality disorders and (my personal irritation) sulky rule lawyers!
 
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Chou4555 wrote:
I guess the main issue for solo play is the instant/event cards that one would spring upon your opponent. Can you surprise yourself if you play solo?

If my memory serves, though I could be misremembering, Ricky Royal's solitaire rules and 'bot for the 1st edition allowed for the 'bot playing event cards. I'll have to go back and take a look for myself to see if I'm lying to you.

But if I am remembering it correctly, then at least that portion of the 2nd edition shouldn't be a problem for a 2nd edition solitaire variant. It's the rest of the 2nd edition changes that makes a solitaire variant a tough nut to crack.



 
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