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Joe Martineau
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The outer stack is pretty big as it is, so it seems like odds of them both coming out are slim. Even if they did, I don't see why that might be terrible.
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You should be able to distinguish between ships parking on the round track after having entered different black holes. As a fleet coming out of nowhere (not physically present on the board) has significant effect on strategic decisions, this would add more confusion and bookkeeping to an arithmetically already challenging game.
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The two tiles have different effects - one (the most useful one, I think) lets you teleport to any half-wormhole hex; the other lets you teleport to an inner (tier-1) hex.

They offer different strategies. Black Hole 399 is used to invade people's backyards; 396 helps make a bid for the galactic centre.

You could use both, but the tiles are (i) rather swing-y and (2) game-changing in the way they disrupt the careful board layout players construct. They are like Flux Wormholes but you have a choice where you go (but less choice when you get there!). If both Black Holes were in play the game could become rather chaotic, with fleets materializing randomly here and there, which would rather punish players who have built careful enclaves with chokepoints.

In a nutshell, one Black Hole in play adds a little uncertainty and makes 'turtling' (constructing a closed off empire) a less attractive strategy (if 399 appears and an enemy controls it) or a more attractive strategy (if 396 appears and you control it). Both Black Holes add rather too much uncertainty for most people's tastes.
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Jukka-Pekka Tuominen
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RageGoblin wrote:
The outer stack is pretty big as it is, so it seems like odds of them both coming out are slim. Even if they did, I don't see why that might be terrible.


In my games I just leave the tiles with all the other III-hexes. They get into play randomly. Usually I have no black holes in the game and several times I have had 1. I have never played a game with 2 black holes, but I guess with more player count it is more likely than with less. I think it has worked quite well.

I usually play with 4 people.

I also own Rise of the Ancient and Shadow of the Rift which means I have quite a lot of III-tiles.
 
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