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Spudkitty

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I just got Mamma Mia (actually Mamma Mia Plus) and am confused about the rollowing:

1. Why do you place the ingredients 'in the oven' before the pizza is assembled and baked (or is this a translation problem)?.

2. After the first round and you have revealed all the cards and sorted them, what happens to the unused cards ... are they left sorted on the table or are they gathered up and placed in a pile for the next round? The instructions are confusing as they say "Once all cards have been revealed, he takes any remaining unused ingredients and places them in a pile in the middle of the table, forming a new oven." If they are placed in a pile, are they shuffled or left in the sorted order?

3. Is there any way the 'Pizza Minimale' can be played in the first round? Seems like the ingredient cards have to be sorted to see which ingredient is fewest. I guess you could look through the pile, but that doesn't sound fair unless everyone gets to see them.
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Spudkitty wrote:
I just got Mamma Mia (actually Mamma Mia Plus) and am confused about the rollowing:

1. Why do you place the ingredients 'in the oven' before the pizza is assembled and baked (or is this a translation problem)?.


Theme, such as it is.

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2. After the first round and you have revealed all the cards and sorted them, what happens to the unused cards ... are they left sorted on the table or are they gathered up and placed in a pile for the next round? The instructions are confusing as they say "Once all cards have been revealed, he takes any remaining unused ingredients and places them in a pile in the middle of the table, forming a new oven." If they are placed in a pile, are they shuffled or left in the sorted order?


Those instructions seems pretty clear...

You gather them into a pile. Sorted or mixed doesn't matter, at all.

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3. Is there any way the 'Pizza Minimale' can be played in the first round? Seems like the ingredient cards have to be sorted to see which ingredient is fewest. I guess you could look through the pile, but that doesn't sound fair unless everyone gets to see them.


Yes, it can always be played. Completing it is another matter. There is a strong memory/intuition element to this game. Players need to track what's in the pile, what's been consumed by previous successful pizzas, and what they need to keep in their had to complete iffy pizzas.

No one can look at through the pile. Pizzas are resolved as they come up in the pile, based on the ingredients already played.

It sounds like you need to play a sample round, to see how the game actually plays; you seem to not understand how things work, and actually going through it manually is likely to be revelatory.




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Agree with Chris.

1. Because that's the way the game works. You put ingredients into the oven, and if you think there's enough in there for you to fulfill a pizza order, you can put an order card in.

2. Unused cards ingredients stay in the oven for the next round. Doesn't matter if they're mixed or not.

3. Yes, you have to remember/guess which ingredient will be the least.

It's a great game, play it a few times and see!

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4. Remember you can use ingredients still in your hand at the end of the round to help complete pizza orders.

5. Remember you can only draw EITHER ingredient cards OR order cards after your turn, NOT BOTH. Hand management is part of the game.
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Many thanks for the helpful (and quick!) responses ... very much appreciated.

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Spudkitty wrote:


3. Is there any way the 'Pizza Minimale' can be played in the first round? Seems like the ingredient cards have to be sorted to see which ingredient is fewest. I guess you could look through the pile, but that doesn't sound fair unless everyone gets to see them.


It sounds like you playing incorrectly. You're suppose to try to make each pizza as it comes up in the pile using only the ingredients that are turned up to that point (and cards in hand). Minimale can easily be done first round if you can play it early.
 
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Spudkitty wrote:
I just got Mamma Mia (actually Mamma Mia Plus) and am confused about the rollowing:

1. Why do you place the ingredients 'in the oven' before the pizza is assembled and baked (or is this a translation problem)?.

2. After the first round and you have revealed all the cards and sorted them, what happens to the unused cards ... are they left sorted on the table or are they gathered up and placed in a pile for the next round? The instructions are confusing as they say "Once all cards have been revealed, he takes any remaining unused ingredients and places them in a pile in the middle of the table, forming a new oven." If they are placed in a pile, are they shuffled or left in the sorted order?

3. Is there any way the 'Pizza Minimale' can be played in the first round? Seems like the ingredient cards have to be sorted to see which ingredient is fewest. I guess you could look through the pile, but that doesn't sound fair unless everyone gets to see them.


during a round, no one is allowed to look at the cards in the oven. they are kept neatly stacked, in order. only the top card is visible. you have to remember, as best you can, what is in the oven. you are not allowed to write down what is in the oven. you are allowed to count how many cards remain in the ingredients deck and your own orders deck.

when drawing, you draw as many cards as needed to fill your hand completely from ONE of the ingredients deck or your orders deck. if there are not enough cards remaining in the deck to fill you hand, then you simply draw as many as remain in that deck and will be playing with less than a full hand next turn. you cannot voluntarily draw fewer cards than needed to fill your hand, if they are present in the chosen deck.

at the end of the round, the oven deck is turned over by whomever drew the mamma mia! card, and that player starts turning up the cards from the oven in the same order they were played.

if the minimale order comes up among the cards played into the oven, the non-suited minimale ingredient (i.e. whatever is (a) different from the color of the minimale order itself, (b) has the fewest cards of that ingredient, and (c) still has at least one in the oven) - that's the minimale ingredient.

for example, turning up the cards, say there are one salami, two pineapples, three olives, and the red player's minimale order. since the minimale ingredient must be different from the color of the order, the card that there are fewest of *of other colors* is the yellow pineapples. in this example it cannot be peppers or mushrooms, because there are no peppers or mushrooms cards showing in the oven yet (although most likely some will show up later). so the red player needs a total of one salami (her own color) and three pineapples to complete the order. these cards can come from any combination of cards already turned up in the oven and cards in her hand.

since there are already one salami and two pineapples turned up in the oven, on the left hand, if the red player can complete the order with a pineapple from her hand, then she does so, the 4 ingredient cards are discarded to form the deck for next round, only the three olives remain in the oven for other orders, and she puts the completed minimale order among her completed orders.

on the right hand, if the red player either cannot or does not choose to complete the order with a pineapple from her hand (perhaps she had hoped to draw the needed pineapple later in the round and was unable to do so), then the turned up ingredients (1 salami, 2 pineapple, 3 olives) all remain in the oven for now (and can be used to complete other orders as they come up), and the red minimale order card goes back to the bottom of her order deck.
 
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