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Does it bother anybody else that the sleaziest billionaire of all, George Soros, who has countless times taken down various countries' economies for his own profit, and currently has a huge bet on America to fail, is trying to make sure that Hillary Clinton gets elected?
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Does it bother anybody else that the sleaziest billionaire of all, George Soros, who has countless times taken down various countries' economies for his own profit, and currently has a huge bet on America to fail, is trying to make sure that Hillary Clinton gets elected?
What's there to be bothered about? He did the same back in 2004 when our most embarrassing and dumbest president was running. His help didn't succeed then.
 
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Kaitlyn_Res wrote:
Does it bother anybody else that the sleaziest billionaire of all, George Soros, who has countless times taken down various countries' economies for his own profit, and currently has a huge bet on America to fail, is trying to make sure that Hillary Clinton gets elected?


A fair and balanced take.
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Why should I suddenly be bothered when a businessman makes a profit on his investments? Is the free market not a good thing after all?
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Does it bother anybody else that the sleaziest billionaire of all, George Soros, who has countless times taken down various countries' economies for his own profit, and currently has a huge bet on America to fail, is trying to make sure that Hillary Clinton gets elected?


He was already supporting Obama, so why would it be a problem?
 
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Does it bother anybody else that the sleaziest billionaire of all, George Soros, who has countless times taken down various countries' economies for his own profit, and currently has a huge bet on America to fail, is trying to make sure that Hillary Clinton gets elected?


He was already supporting Obama, so why would it be a problem?
I don't think he had this huge short bet on Obama that he has on Hillary's America.

You'd think if he wanted to make money, he'd try to support Trump which would make his shorts pay off bigtime because the market hates uncertainty and NOBODY knows what Trump will do while with Clinton, there is 100% certainty of massive corruption.

However, he has a massive (I mean YUUUUUUGE!) short bet on our markets and he wants Clinton, meaning he thinks her presidency will even be more profitable to his bet on America's economic downfall than having Trump.
 
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However, he has a massive (I mean YUUUUUUGE!) short bet on our markets and he wants Clinton, meaning he thinks her presidency will even be more profitable to his bet on America's economic downfall than having Trump.


Would you care to share your evidence that Soros is shorting the entire American market?
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Does it bother anybody else that the sleaziest billionaire of all, George Soros, who has countless times taken down various countries' economies for his own profit, and currently has a huge bet on America to fail, is trying to make sure that Hillary Clinton gets elected?


The loss finally sinking in?

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Kaitlyn_Res wrote:
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Does it bother anybody else that the sleaziest billionaire of all, George Soros, who has countless times taken down various countries' economies for his own profit, and currently has a huge bet on America to fail, is trying to make sure that Hillary Clinton gets elected?


He was already supporting Obama, so why would it be a problem?
I don't think he had this huge short bet on Obama that he has on Hillary's America.

You'd think if he wanted to make money, he'd try to support Trump which would make his shorts pay off bigtime because the market hates uncertainty and NOBODY knows what Trump will do while with Clinton, there is 100% certainty of massive corruption.

However, he has a massive (I mean YUUUUUUGE!) short bet on our markets and he wants Clinton, meaning he thinks her presidency will even be more profitable to his bet on America's economic downfall than having Trump.


So, will you tsk tsk tsk me for making money off the market, via shorting, since the Comey letter?

'Cause I did.

PS... Should I now not vote for Hillary, to appease your interesting setting on the Hypocrisy Detector 3000?
 
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However, he has a massive (I mean YUUUUUUGE!) short bet on our markets and he wants Clinton, meaning he thinks her presidency will even be more profitable to his bet on America's economic downfall than having Trump.


Would you care to share your evidence that Soros is shorting the entire American market?


http://investmentwatchblog.com/george-soros-is-shorting-the-...

Apparently you don't follow the markets like at all because it's pretty old news which I hear at least once a week.
 
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Kaitlyn_Res wrote:
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However, he has a massive (I mean YUUUUUUGE!) short bet on our markets and he wants Clinton, meaning he thinks her presidency will even be more profitable to his bet on America's economic downfall than having Trump.


Would you care to share your evidence that Soros is shorting the entire American market?


http://investmentwatchblog.com/george-soros-is-shorting-the-...

Apparently you don't follow the markets like at all because it's pretty old news which I hear at least once a week.


Interesting investment blog that has the "breaking news" on pedophilia charges against the Clintons from Infowars
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Kaitlyn_Res wrote:
wifwendell wrote:
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However, he has a massive (I mean YUUUUUUGE!) short bet on our markets and he wants Clinton, meaning he thinks her presidency will even be more profitable to his bet on America's economic downfall than having Trump.


Would you care to share your evidence that Soros is shorting the entire American market?


http://investmentwatchblog.com/george-soros-is-shorting-the-...

Apparently you don't follow the markets like at all because it's pretty old news which I hear at least once a week.


So, you may follow them, but you don't understand them. Otherwise, you wouldn't think that a common investment strategy is bad.

It's only bad if you lose money when using it. I regularly bet against companies.

 
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Joe Cool wrote:
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Does it bother anybody else that the sleaziest billionaire of all, George Soros, who has countless times taken down various countries' economies for his own profit, and currently has a huge bet on America to fail, is trying to make sure that Hillary Clinton gets elected?


He was already supporting Obama, so why would it be a problem?
I don't think he had this huge short bet on Obama that he has on Hillary's America.

You'd think if he wanted to make money, he'd try to support Trump which would make his shorts pay off bigtime because the market hates uncertainty and NOBODY knows what Trump will do while with Clinton, there is 100% certainty of massive corruption.

However, he has a massive (I mean YUUUUUUGE!) short bet on our markets and he wants Clinton, meaning he thinks her presidency will even be more profitable to his bet on America's economic downfall than having Trump.


Yeah, we know these stories.
It's the talking points that you are expected to broadcast, like here:
https://www.reddit.com/r/The_Donald/comments/4xlrtu/the_stum...

Basically, trumpists can not think by themselves apparently, so someone made a list for them.
A list as trustable as Trump of course. You know, the guy who lies about facts that are public knowledge.

 
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Kaitlyn_Res wrote:
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However, he has a massive (I mean YUUUUUUGE!) short bet on our markets and he wants Clinton, meaning he thinks her presidency will even be more profitable to his bet on America's economic downfall than having Trump.


Would you care to share your evidence that Soros is shorting the entire American market?


http://investmentwatchblog.com/george-soros-is-shorting-the-...

Apparently you don't follow the markets like at all because it's pretty old news which I hear at least once a week.



Ohhh, shit. This right-wing "blog" is hilarious. Yeah, not surprised you slurp its juice.

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George Soros is worth roughly $25B. If he's smart (apparently a lot smarter than Trump by net worth), he's got most of that invested, probably in the US.

So, a hedge (counter-investment) of a few billion is entirely reasonable, if he thinks Trump might win--and the polls are not indicating a lock for either candidate.

A prudent investor will make plays for both outcomes. If possible, he'll make a play toward uncertainty being removed, or a play that will benefit either way. It's not about betting; it's not about being on a "side"; it's about making money with as much safety as possible.
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Kaitlyn_Res wrote:
wifwendell wrote:
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However, he has a massive (I mean YUUUUUUGE!) short bet on our markets and he wants Clinton, meaning he thinks her presidency will even be more profitable to his bet on America's economic downfall than having Trump.


Would you care to share your evidence that Soros is shorting the entire American market?


http://investmentwatchblog.com/george-soros-is-shorting-the-...

Apparently you don't follow the markets like at all because it's pretty old news which I hear at least once a week.


Here's that stellar website's mission statement: "This is the place for people who are pro-capitalism, pro-business, pro-market, truth seeker, and anti-MSM."

"anti-MSM" explains it.

And this: "To uncover false flags, hoaxes or PSYOPs, propaganda, and disinformation" underscores the impression I got from skimming this website - it's on a par with Info Wars only with fewer satanic rituals and alien conspiracies.

Unfortunately, the fact you get your "news" from this site proves you don't really know what you're talking about.
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wifwendell wrote:
Kaitlyn_Res wrote:
wifwendell wrote:
Kaitlyn_Res wrote:


However, he has a massive (I mean YUUUUUUGE!) short bet on our markets and he wants Clinton, meaning he thinks her presidency will even be more profitable to his bet on America's economic downfall than having Trump.


Would you care to share your evidence that Soros is shorting the entire American market?


http://investmentwatchblog.com/george-soros-is-shorting-the-...

Apparently you don't follow the markets like at all because it's pretty old news which I hear at least once a week.


Here's that stellar website's mission statement: "This is the place for people who are pro-capitalism, pro-business, pro-market, truth seeker, and anti-MSM."

"anti-MSM" explains it.

And this: "To uncover false flags, hoaxes or PSYOPs, propaganda, and disinformation" underscores the impression I got from skimming this website - it's on a par with Info Wars only with fewer satanic rituals and alien conspiracies.

Unfortunately, the fact you get your "news" from this site proves you don't really know what you're talking about.


are we really surprised this is a well she frequents? C'mon... it's like meth to the fringe.
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Does it bother anybody else that the sleaziest billionaire of all, George Soros, who has countless times taken down various countries' economies for his own profit, and currently has a huge bet on America to fail, is trying to make sure that Hillary Clinton gets elected?


Pretty sure Trump is the "sleaziest" billionaire at this point. Pussy grabbing usually gets you that moniker.
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Kaitlyn_Res wrote:
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However, he has a massive (I mean YUUUUUUGE!) short bet on our markets and he wants Clinton, meaning he thinks her presidency will even be more profitable to his bet on America's economic downfall than having Trump.


Would you care to share your evidence that Soros is shorting the entire American market?


http://investmentwatchblog.com/george-soros-is-shorting-the-...

Apparently you don't follow the markets like at all because it's pretty old news which I hear at least once a week.


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Does it bother anybody else that the sleaziest billionaire of all, George Soros, who has countless times taken down various countries' economies for his own profit, and currently has a huge bet on America to fail, is trying to make sure that Hillary Clinton gets elected?


Easy RSP rule of thumb:

Money in politics is good, if it's helping Democrats.
Money in politics is bad, if it's helping Republicans.


No, and I hope this is one area where everyone should agree. We should get dirty money out of all politics. It's legal bribery and until we have publicly funded elections we will have a farce of a democracy.
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George Soros is worth roughly $25B. If he's smart (apparently a lot smarter than Trump by net worth), he's got most of that invested, probably in the US.

So, a hedge (counter-investment) of a few billion is entirely reasonable, if he thinks Trump might win--and the polls are not indicating a lock for either candidate.

A prudent investor will make plays for both outcomes. If possible, he'll make a play toward uncertainty being removed, or a play that will benefit either way. It's not about betting; it's not about being on a "side"; it's about making money with as much safety as possible.


That's true, but the WSJ article from which this is sourced gives another explanation: Soros thinks a financial crisis will be coming due to an implosion of the Chinese market. Our markets are substantially exposed to theirs, so that makes sense.

If my borderline financial literacy is up to the predictive task, that probably would also mean American bond yields might well drop below zero--even if the U.S. market differs some, I have the impression turmoil elsewhere tends to push investment toward safety here. I wonder whether that's part of the problem with companies hoarding so much cash--when times get rough, capital flows to government, even at terrible rates, rather than taking risks on private companies. So relying on capital markets to help you through a patch of limited liquidity is less sensible than it would be if governments (especially ours) were less interested in borrowing at better than free rates to engage in counter-cyclical spending.

Anyway, no, this doesn't trouble me. The economy has been reasonably stably improving long enough that I do wonder when it's going to turn around again. Seems we're due for a recession. With Clinton as President, I expect it'll be less likely to turn into a catastrophe than it would with Trump. But I imagine the suggestion of the question was that maybe Soros is very smart, and supports Clinton because he has shorted the U.S. economy and thinks she's more likely to make that bet pay off. I think that's kind of silly, but if you want to make an argument for it involving premises and a conclusion rather than innuendo and suggestion, I'll give it my attention.
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Does it bother anybody else that the sleaziest billionaire of all, George Soros, who has countless times taken down various countries' economies for his own profit, and currently has a huge bet on America to fail, is trying to make sure that Hillary Clinton gets elected?


With Trump on the field, I"m not sure we can talk about the sleaziest anythings anywhere.
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