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Zachary Stoltenberg

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Have you ever played a new game and gotten excited about it only to find out that it's either out of print/production or available for a price that has three digits? Happened to me at the last Con, after some digging to find the correct sizes and dimensions I built my own custom set of tumblin' dice. All said and done I spent about $25 and 6 hours and couldn't be happier with the end result!





Well, after 6 months of play on this set with numerous friends and relatives I made a list of all of the things I would do differently if I built another one. I scoured the previous kickstarter about phantom "stretch goals" that never materialized. I read thread after thread about variants, alternative rules and surfaces, etc. I pooled all of that with my own lessons learned and set out to design an "Ultimate Tumblin' Dice Set."

Paramount in this set was internal storage for dice for up to 8 players with 5 dice each. I wanted the board to hinge or fold up more compact for storage. I wanted the board to still be able to be hung on a wall like my first set. I wanted shorter stop pegs, closer to what the original game sets were, and I wanted flexibility to be able to add or remove pegs. I wanted to incorporate the optional variants in one set. Portals, Mines, Multipliers, Duplicators, Meeples, Capture the Flag, all of it in one set with the option to use or not use any of them and of course, all of these new additions needed to be stored internally as well. I wanted to add a dry erase or highly lacquered surface that could be used with a dry erase marker for score keeping that could be stored with the rest of the game. Lastly, I wanted to keep a budget in mind. Under $50 was the goal and so far that has been kept. Below is progress pictures of the set up to where it sits today. I will update as I progress.
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Previous plans were modified to add disc inserts for variant play.


Switched from birch ply on my last build to oak for the ultimate set. overall wasn't pleased with the quality and will stick with birch on any more sets in the future.


Stained up with pilot holes drilled for pins. To get the various pieces to move but still line up straight became an obvious problem. Decided to try magnets to "line up" various levels while still allowing movement.


First test of the rotate and fold option in the build. Worked beautifully. Some things you design in a computer don't always work in real life and this was an absolutely perfect real life transition of the design to reality. It happens rarely and I always get excited about it. surprise


Decided to color fill the recessed areas. Will probably go with vinyl inserts on the final.


5 coats of lacquer, wet sanded then buffed with polishing wax this is the set folded up for storage.


The center platform cartwheels to "unlock" the top from between the duck feet and reveal the internal storage for dice and the wooden nickel inserts for variant play.


Storage in the main compartment fits 40 standard casino sized dice (8 sets of five) side recesses hold wooden insert nickels (12 total) that will have a variant on one side and be blank on the other for "standard" play.


Embedded recessed magnets hold each platform in alignment when fully deployed and hold everything tight when closed up. Platform pins will also be magnetic and removeable. The scoreboard also stores between platforms to "lock" all the levels together.
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This is amazing! Beautiful work. Want to sell me one?

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I will post the PDF plans and patterns when I finish it up.

I really need to shoot a video showing how it operates. Difficult to describe it, easier to show it.
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Incredible work, Zachary.
Some summer vacation I'll actually attempt creating my own TD board.
Yours looks amazing!
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Variant Disc insert removed. I'm using craft foam to keep them from moving and/or rotating in the recess.


All of the removeable stop pins are magnetic and store in the recessed area under the board.


The craft foam fills the divet for your finger so the play surface is still perfectly flat and smooth.


The foam gives way for your finger to depress the edge of the Variant discs to flip them over or remove them when finished with play.


The finished look.



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Just wow.
 
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TWrecks wrote:
This is amazing! Beautiful work. Want to sell me one?



I went all out to look for a Nash board and found one...but seeing this, I would rather have yours!

If you ever sell one.........


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Diarmud wrote:
TWrecks wrote:
This is amazing! Beautiful work. Want to sell me one?



I went all out to look for a Nash board and found one...but seeing this, I would rather have yours!

If you ever sell one.........


(since I am all thumbs, and then some gulp


Haven't really thought about selling them. Would probably do more build to suit for a small few if interested. May be cheaper if I ordered magnets, etc. in a larger quantity. The finishing is really what takes the most time. I would probably do them un-finished and let folks stain and finish however they wanted them.
 
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Put me on your list. I'm definitely interested. That is something that I would leave out for guests to appreciate. It's not a game for the shelf.
 
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If you go through with that, put me down for an unfinished version!
 
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Finished Game Set in folded up position.


Finished dice and alternate nickel storage inside of game base.


Removable and stow-able score keeping pad with dry erase surface.


Fully deployed game in standard mode.

Pretty happy with the finished vinyl. Had a hiccup on the alternate discs and need to re-do the patterns for the wonderful lady that does my vinyl. I will post final pics of the alternate portals, mines, and multipliers when I get them finished.
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Folding up set to store.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NIKoD7Km7e0&spfreload=10

Video of game setup.
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Beautiful work.
 
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Yeah, put me on the list for ordering one too. This is easily the best looking one I've seen yet and I would happily cough up money and support someone that is making a product this cool...
 
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WOW, very nice. I have your plans printed and then cut out in foam core for patterns. I have a sheet of 1/2 inch Birch,and the other materials ready. Still in idea stage, glad I found this thread to review as well. So you are using 5 dice, not 4? What did you use for the images on the board, thats a area I'm stuck on.
 
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Wow def would be interested if you ever decide to produce more
 
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Looks like it's time to take orders. Eagle Gryphon has plans for a new edition soon.
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So my original I did out of 1/2" Baltic Birch Ply, it's beautiful. I used minwax fruit wood for the stain and it looks like it was commercially produced. Yes, we typically play with 5 dice, found through many rounds that the more crowded the board gets near the end the more knock outs and give it to 'em moments happen and that's part of the game that we love! For an 6-8 person game we typically go down to 4 dice. For the images, I have a friend who does vinyl cuts on a cricut machine. I sent her an image file (which I'm happy to share here) and she traced them in her machine and cut them for me.
 
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Thanks.. got the patterns traced on wood, still trying to set up shop (clean and organize) before cutting. I thought about trying to 'inlay' some dice before coating. In my head anyway. thinking about using Parks Super Glaze for a high finish, much like my Crokinole board. And also adding a set of legs on the 4th level up to make it 2 pieces, attaching by pegs. Although I not sure if the larger size bothers me much. i got a set of https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01IR2DM6Q/ref=oh_aui_deta... so we will have plenty of dice to play with.

thanks again
 
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I uploaded the "deluxe" patterns for my ultimate version, it has locations marked for all of the pins, magnets, etc., as well as shows how the layers stack for the internal dice and disc storage. This can easily be modified to expand the storage area. For my pivot points I used a small steel bearing I found at Lowes. I used a tightly fit wooden dowel on the top board fit to the center of the bearing and used a flat bottom spade bit to drill a recessed hole into the bottom board fit tight to the outside of the bearing. A simple dowel pin and hole would probably work as well, I just wanted a very smooth operation and the bearings gave me that. Honestly, after looking at the finished project, if I ever make another, I will forgo the pins, dowels, and bearings, and just use the magnets everywhere. I was able to find some REALLY superior neodymium mags from K&J that are more than strong enough to hold each of the levels together and would still allow me to flip the top for storage. Installation is super simple, just drill the hole and rubber mallet the magnets into place. All of the marks are there in the pattern for magnet locations, would love to see someone try this approach.
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TWrecks wrote:
Looks like it's time to take orders. Eagle Gryphon has plans for a new edition soon.


Link?
 
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markandmel wrote:
WOW, very nice. I have your plans printed and then cut out in foam core for patterns. I have a sheet of 1/2 inch Birch,and the other materials ready. Still in idea stage, glad I found this thread to review as well. So you are using 5 dice, not 4? What did you use for the images on the board, thats a area I'm stuck on.


I just finished the upload of the image files, see here:

https://boardgamegeek.com/filepage/134447/custom-tumblin-dic...
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zachstoltenberg wrote:
TWrecks wrote:
Looks like it's time to take orders. Eagle Gryphon has plans for a new edition soon.


Link?


Here you go:


http://boardgamegeek.com/article/24486255#24486255




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