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So, for the building tiles where you score points for a "chain" here is the official ruling:
The owner scores 1 victory point (2 victory points
if the tile is upgraded) for each tile that is connected
directly, or indirectly, to this tile by a connector of the
colour indicated on the tile. The links must form an
unbroken chain.
The last sentence is what is confusing us. An Unbroken Chain.
How does that affect the below examples:
This is obviously fine, scoring 5 points:
O - O - O - O - 0
But what about this:
0 - 0 - 0 - 0
..../
..0
Would that score 5 or just 4 for the MAX chain?
please ignore the ...'s - i couldn't line the "tiles" up!!!!
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Jon Ben
Canada
Vancouver
British Columbia
Of course I've been up all night! Not because of caffeine, it was insomnia. I couldn't stop thinking about coffee.
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For each tile on your board check if you can trace back to the scoring tile using only connectors of the indicated colour. If you can, that tile scores points, otherwise it does not.
If I'm reading your second ascii-graph correctly that would be 5 scoring tiles. They are all interconnected using the appropriate connector colour.
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Matt Simpson
United Kingdom
Leeds
West Yorkshire
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Yeah I struggle with the "unbroken chain". It all depends if side chains count or whether it just has to be the main links. If you count the tiles from the start of the chain then you have to come back on yourself with every branch to a tile you've already counted so I'd say that would break the counting chain. It would be great to get definitive answer on this.
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Mitch Harding
United States
Austin
Texas
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JonBen wrote: For each tile on your board check if you can trace back to the scoring tile using only connectors of the indicated colour. If you can, that tile scores points, otherwise it does not.
If I'm reading your second ascii-graph correctly that would be 5 scoring tiles. They are all interconnected using the appropriate connector colour.
That is my understanding as well, and it was how that scoring tile was explained to us in Essen when we playtested the game,
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Richard Breese
United Kingdom
Stratford-upon-Avon
Warwickshire
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JonBen wrote: For each tile on your board check if you can trace back to the scoring tile using only connectors of the indicated colour. If you can, that tile scores points, otherwise it does not. That's correct Jon. Thanks for clarifying.
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Andy Leighton
England
Peterborough
Unspecified
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Simpsqo wrote: Yeah I struggle with the "unbroken chain". It all depends if side chains count or whether it just has to be the main links. If you count the tiles from the start of the chain then you have to come back on yourself with every branch to a tile you've already counted so I'd say that would break the counting chain. It would be great to get definitive answer on this.
As I understand it branches are fine as long as you can follow a path of the appropriate colour connectors back to the tile that gives you the bonus.
You could even have the following
O O O
\ / /
O - O - O - O - O - O
/ \
O O - O
If all the connectors are the appropriate colour then all those tiles count.
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Excellent. Thanks all. Andy, your diagrams were infinitely better than mine. I couldn't get the branch to line up!!!
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Matt Simpson
United Kingdom
Leeds
West Yorkshire
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Richard Breese wrote: JonBen wrote: For each tile on your board check if you can trace back to the scoring tile using only connectors of the indicated colour. If you can, that tile scores points, otherwise it does not. That's correct Jon. Thanks for clarifying.
Thanks Richard and massive thanks for producing another great game.
So in these 2 situations:
The setup on left would score 14
The setup on right would score 12
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Andy Leighton
England
Peterborough
Unspecified
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clownfeet wrote: Excellent. Thanks all. Andy, your diagrams were infinitely better than mine. I couldn't get the branch to line up!!!
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NICK WATKINS
United States
New York
New York
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Doesn't the tile on the left score 12 tiles x 2 = 24 points?
I can see the other one does score 12
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Ponder Stibbons
United States
Tulsa
Oklahoma
I give myself very good advice, But I very seldom follow it. That explains the trouble that I'm always in.
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i count 11 tiles connected to the opera house by red pieces in that picture.
JonBen wrote: For each tile on your board check if you can trace back to the scoring tile using only connectors of the indicated colour... i assumed the tile on the left scores 11 tiles * 2 = 22pts. what wording suggests that we should score the scoring tile itself?
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Mr. Blue
United States
Orange County
California
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Rumbelow wrote: i count 11 tiles connected to the opera house by red pieces in that picture. JonBen wrote: For each tile on your board check if you can trace back to the scoring tile using only connectors of the indicated colour... i assumed the tile on the left scores 11 tiles * 2 = 22pts. what wording suggests that we should score the scoring tile itself?
You do score the "scoring tile" itself because it is part of the chain of tiles (you count tiles, not connectors, for chains). But I think the problem is that the image you are looking at isn't a single image -- it is a composite of 2 separate side-by-side images. There are only 7 connected tiles in each picture. So, 14 points for the left, 12 points (6 connectors) on the right.
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Michael Tunison
United States
Tucson
Arizona
Get your finger out of my face!
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mrblueesq wrote:
You do score the "scoring tile" itself because it is part of the chain of tiles (you count tiles, not connectors, for chains).
Is this an official answer? The rulebook indicates you score for each time "connected to" the scoring tile, which would seem to exclude the scoring tile itself. The image in the tile seems to include itself, so I was coming here to clarify this exact issue.
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Mr. Blue
United States
Orange County
California
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MikeTuna wrote: mrblueesq wrote:
You do score the "scoring tile" itself because it is part of the chain of tiles (you count tiles, not connectors, for chains).
Is this an official answer? The rulebook indicates you score for each time "connected to" the scoring tile, which would seem to exclude the scoring tile itself. The image in the tile seems to include itself, so I was coming here to clarify this exact issue.
The scoring example shown on p.10 of the rules clearly shows that the scoring tile is scored as part of the chain.
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Michael Tunison
United States
Tucson
Arizona
Get your finger out of my face!
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Doh! We played for the first time last night and I'm not sure how I missed the example, but yes, that does seem to clarify it
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Dan Blum
United States
Wilmington
Massachusetts
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It would be nice if the example didn't directly contradict the rule, which clearly excludes the tile itself from scoring.
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Stefano Marchetto
Italy
Latina
LT
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I played my first game yesterday and ignored the example, so we didn't count the tile itself for the scoring.
Could the author be a bit more precise about that?
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