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That the mainstream media will SUDDENLY remember how to conduct investigative journalism.
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TheDashi wrote:
That the mainstream media will SUDDENLY remember how to conduct investigative journalism.


Which will be a win for everybody :p
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TheDashi wrote:
That the mainstream media will SUDDENLY remember how to conduct investigative journalism.

That would be nice.
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...the record number of people out of the job market becomes an issue for MSNBC.
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...that gridlock becomes a measure of success.
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TheDashi wrote:
That the mainstream media will SUDDENLY remember how to conduct investigative journalism.

Indeed, and the recent-though-much-too-late Newsweek exposes about Trump's dealings with Russia and other unresolved Trump controvesies and court cases will likely result in the future earlier-than-anticipated resignation of a President Trump and the ascension of a Vice President Mike Pence to the Presidency.

And then, with a Dominionist in the Oval Office, the shit really would start to hit the fan all the more noticeably and dramatically.


 
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...that gridlock becomes a measure of success.


Man, where have you been the last 8 years, or even the last 1 year?

Isn't the entire Garland Supreme Court thing the GOP taking that to absurd extremes?
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...that gridlock becomes a measure of success.


Man, where have you been the last 8 years, or even the last 1 year?

Isn't the entire Garland Supreme Court thing the GOP taking that to absurd extremes?


And it's horrible right? Terrible.

If the dems can manage that it will now be portrayed as a resounding win for the Republic.
 
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In my estimation the legacy media is going to be on life support after so much incorrect polling and rhetoric. Hopefully people will start getting their information from a diversity of sources instead of trusting partisan media platforms that essentially do tabloid talkshows vaguely focussed on the theme of politics. Well of course there is no chance of that happening but their figures are plummeting and they are going to have to do something significant to regain the people's confidence. It doesn't help that Trump has really put the screws to them.
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And dont forget about these moonbats !

 
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jeremycobert wrote:
And dont forget about these moonbats !


Supposedly, the anti-neocons were for Trump. After all, they were calling Hillary Clinton a "hawk", were wanting to turn over the war on ISIS to Russia, and didn't want the USA to be interventionist.

I cannot remember which late Russian leader said it, but a quote is attributed to him to the effect that one day, the U.S.S.R. (i.e. Russia) would conquer the USA without firing a shot.

I never envisioned this scenario though.





 
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Koldfoot wrote:
windsagio wrote:
Koldfoot wrote:
...that gridlock becomes a measure of success.


Man, where have you been the last 8 years, or even the last 1 year?

Isn't the entire Garland Supreme Court thing the GOP taking that to absurd extremes?


And it's horrible right? Terrible.

If the dems can manage that it will now be portrayed as a resounding win for the Republic.


I really hope that the Democrats do not declare themselves another party of "no". That would be disastrous.
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Obstructionism will be "IN" again with the democrats.
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dkearns wrote:
Koldfoot wrote:
windsagio wrote:
Koldfoot wrote:
...that gridlock becomes a measure of success.


Man, where have you been the last 8 years, or even the last 1 year?

Isn't the entire Garland Supreme Court thing the GOP taking that to absurd extremes?


And it's horrible right? Terrible.

If the dems can manage that it will now be portrayed as a resounding win for the Republic.


I really hope that the Democrats do not declare themselves another party of "no". That would be disastrous.

It seemed to work for the Republican Party.

I predict we can say goodbye to Eastern Europe as we know it. Putin will feel emboldened to bolster more separatist movements in, and slip Russian troops into, Estonia, Latvia, Belarus and strengthen his position in Ukraine. NATO, without clear indications that US troops will fight Russia, will issue strong condemnations but they won't send in troops. Moldova will go next. NATO will finally draw the line at Poland and Romania. Seeing the writing on the wall, Turkey will withdraw from NATO and join a new eastern bloc alliance.
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Will Democrats Adopt Republicans' Obstructionism Strategy?


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Obstructionism will be "IN" again with the democrats.

You mean, Mitch McConnell and Paul Ryan will hand off the Obstructionism Strategy baton that they began on Inauguration Day 2009 to the Democrat leaders in the House of Representatives and Senate?


> Excerpt from the April 10, 2012 Huffington Post news story by Sam Stein entitled:

Investigative Reporter Robert Draper's New Book Reveals How The Republican Party's Anti-Obama Campaign Started On Night Of Obama's 1st Inauguration

As President Barack Obama was celebrating his 1st inauguration at various balls on January 20, 2009, top Republican lawmakers and strategists were conjuring up ways to sabotage and subvert his Presidency at a private dinner in Washington, D.C.

The event -- which provides a telling revelation for how quickly the post-election climate soured -- serves as the prologue of Robert Draper's much-discussed and heavily-reported new book, "Do Not Ask What Good We Do: Inside the U.S. House of Representatives."




According to aurhoe Draper, the guest list that night (which was just over 15 people in total) included Republican Reps. Eric Cantor (Va.), Kevin McCarthy (Calif.), Paul Ryan (Wis.), Pete Sessions (Texas), Jeb Hensarling (Texas), Pete Hoekstra (Mich.) and Dan Lungren (Calif.), along with Republican Sens. Jim DeMint (S.C.), Jon Kyl (Ariz.), Tom Coburn (Okla.), John Ensign (Nev.) and Bob Corker (Tenn.). The non-lawmakers present included Newt Gingrich, several years removed from his presidential campaign, and Frank Luntz, the long-time Republican wordsmith. Notably absent were Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.) and House Minority Leader John Boehner (R-Ohio) -- who, Draper writes, had an acrimonious relationship with Luntz.

For several hours in the Caucus Room (a high-end D.C. establishment), the book says they plotted out ways to not just win back political power, but to also put the brakes on Obama's legislative platform.

"If you act like you're the minority, you're going to stay in the minority," Draper quotes McCarthy as saying. "We've gotta challenge them on every single bill and challenge them on every single campaign."

The conversation got only more specific from there, Draper reports. Kyl suggested going after incoming Treasury Secretary Timothy Geithner for failing to pay Social Security and Medicare taxes while at the International Monetary Fund. Gingrich noted that House Ways and Means Chairman Charlie Rangel (D-N.Y.) had a similar tax problem. McCarthy chimed in to declare "there's a web" before arguing that Republicans could put pressure on any Democrat who accepted campaign money from Rangel to give it back.

The dinner lasted nearly four hours. They parted company almost giddily. The Republicans had agreed on a way forward:

E Go after Timothy Geithner: (And indeed Kyl did go after Geithner the next day in a badgeringly aggressive way, saying, "Would you answer my question rather than dancing around it — please?")

E Show united and unyielding opposition to the President’s economic policies. (Eight days later, Minority Whip Cantor would hold the House Republicans to a unanimous No against Obama’s economic stimulus plan.)

E Begin attacking vulnerable Democrats on the airwaves: (The first National Republican Congressional Committee attack ads would run in less than two months.)

E Win the spear point of the House in 2010: Jab Obama relentlessly in 2011. Win the White House and the Senate in 2012.


"You will remember this day," Draper reports Newt Gingrich as saying on the way out. "You’ll remember this as the day the seeds of 2012 were sown."

Draper's timeline is correct. On Jan. 21, 2009, Kyl aggressively questioned Geithner during his confirmation hearings. On Jan. 28, 2009, House GOP leadership held the line against the stimulus package (Senate GOP leadership would prove less successful in stopping defections).

The votes, of course, can be attributed to legitimate philosophical objection to the idea of stimulus spending as well as sincere concern that the secretary of the Treasury should personally have a clean tax-paying record. But what Draper's book makes clear is that blunt electoral-minded ambitions were the animating force.

Whether or not that's shocking depends on the degree to which one's view of politics has been jaded. What's certainly noteworthy is the timing. When Mitch McConnell said in October 2010 that his party's primary goal in the next Congress was to make Obama a one-term president, it was treated as remarkably candid and deeply cynical. Had he said it publicly in January 2009, it would likely have caused an uproar.

By extension, however, the Draper anecdote also negatively reflects on the Obama administration for failing to appreciate how quickly congressional Republicans would oppose the President's agenda.





 
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I'm hoping they will be wiser and chose instead to regroup and rebuild.

Only figthing important battles instead of attempting to gridlock everything but I doubt it.


After all 50% didnt vote for Trump etc and each time this happens the can just gets kicked on down the road with both sides become more entrenched and bitter.
 
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