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I just posted this on Facebook... you know, where political conversations are always mature.

I just thought I'd copy and paste it here.

That's all. I leave it here without comment, for you to rip apart if need be.

DKahnt's Facebook Status wrote:
I am thoroughly disappointed with the results of the Presidential Election. Watching the news outlets report the states early this morning with astonishment of the election process.

Trump was focused on Electoral College and Clinton on the Popular vote. They each won their respective paths. But ultimately the Electoral College is the determinant. (of which will of course be talked about forever - again)

I feel Clinton got complacent in some geographical areas and failed to win over disenfranchised Sander supporters. Trump was right there to pick them up. Trump had a better understanding of the rules to win.

I have to admit, that I hope people pay attention to those Sanders voters. In my opinion, I believe, that there was a clear push from the establishment that Clinton was going to be the President. See... on that end, I believe the American people are sick of the establishment.

Say what you want about FOX (I was switching between FOX and CNN) but they pointed out that in Philadelphia the night before, Clinton had on her stage "the establishment" and Trump's message was anti-establishment. There has to be something about that message that rings in some voters.

Also, I must admit that I an highly disappointed that Clinton did not address her constituents. Say what you want, but at least in his speech Trump offered somewhat of an olive branch. She should have spoke.

That being said, The United States of America last night voted on their new President. I grow tired of either side calling the other stupid or "wasting votes." Those who voted, good for you -- no matter how you voted. Those who did not vote, I truly am sad that you did not -- but that is your right.

We have a new President... we... not 'you.'


-DK
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DKahnt wrote:
I just posted this on Facebook... you know, where political conversations are always mature.

I just thought I'd copy and paste it here.

That's all. I leave it here without comment, for you to rip apart if need be.

DKahnt's Facebook Status wrote:
I am thoroughly disappointed with the results of the Presidential Election. Watching the news outlets report the states early this morning with astonishment of the election process.

Trump was focused on Electoral College and Clinton on the Popular vote. They each won their respective paths. But ultimately the Electoral College is the determinant. (of which will of course be talked about forever - again)

I feel Clinton got complacent in some geographical areas and failed to win over disenfranchised Sander supporters. Trump was right there to pick them up. Trump had a better understanding of the rules to win.

I have to admit, that I hope people pay attention to those Sanders voters. In my opinion, I believe, that there was a clear push from the establishment that Clinton was going to be the President. See... on that end, I believe the American people are sick of the establishment.

Say what you want about FOX (I was switching between FOX and CNN) but they pointed out that in Philadelphia the night before, Clinton had on her stage "the establishment" and Trump's message was anti-establishment. There has to be something about that message that rings in some voters.

Also, I must admit that I an highly disappointed that Clinton did not address her constituents. Say what you want, but at least in his speech Trump offered somewhat of an olive branch. She should have spoke.

That being said, The United States of America last night voted on their new President. I grow tired of either side calling the other stupid or "wasting votes." Those who voted, good for you -- no matter how you voted. Those who did not vote, I truly am sad that you did not -- but that is your right.

We have a new President... we... not 'you.'


-DK


You live in Ohio so you should feel great. Trump railed against NAFTA and other trade agreements and told all those blue collar voters he was going to help them out. He won so now he can do it! Think of all the good new jobs that will be available!
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mrspank wrote:
DKahnt wrote:
I just posted this on Facebook... you know, where political conversations are always mature.

I just thought I'd copy and paste it here.

That's all. I leave it here without comment, for you to rip apart if need be.

DKahnt's Facebook Status wrote:
I am thoroughly disappointed with the results of the Presidential Election. Watching the news outlets report the states early this morning with astonishment of the election process.

Trump was focused on Electoral College and Clinton on the Popular vote. They each won their respective paths. But ultimately the Electoral College is the determinant. (of which will of course be talked about forever - again)

I feel Clinton got complacent in some geographical areas and failed to win over disenfranchised Sander supporters. Trump was right there to pick them up. Trump had a better understanding of the rules to win.

I have to admit, that I hope people pay attention to those Sanders voters. In my opinion, I believe, that there was a clear push from the establishment that Clinton was going to be the President. See... on that end, I believe the American people are sick of the establishment.

Say what you want about FOX (I was switching between FOX and CNN) but they pointed out that in Philadelphia the night before, Clinton had on her stage "the establishment" and Trump's message was anti-establishment. There has to be something about that message that rings in some voters.

Also, I must admit that I an highly disappointed that Clinton did not address her constituents. Say what you want, but at least in his speech Trump offered somewhat of an olive branch. She should have spoke.

That being said, The United States of America last night voted on their new President. I grow tired of either side calling the other stupid or "wasting votes." Those who voted, good for you -- no matter how you voted. Those who did not vote, I truly am sad that you did not -- but that is your right.

We have a new President... we... not 'you.'


-DK


You live in Ohio so you should feel great. Trump railed against NAFTA and other trade agreements and told all those blue collar voters he was going to help them out. He won so now he can do it! Think of all the good new jobs that will be available!


Ah...

I suppose I should mention it here.

1) I just moved to Ohio
2) My wife and I absentee ballot voted in North Carolina.
3) I did not vote for Trump.

-DK
 
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I don't think it's accurate to say the Clinton campaign focused on popular vote at expense of electoral college.

As for third party - I'm not convinced that much more than half the Johnson vote would have gone to Clinton, so I doubt he cost her many states if any.
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What was the combined 3rd Party totals? From what was shown, these amounted with LESS than 5% altogether.
 
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wifwendell wrote:
I don't think it's accurate to say the Clinton campaign focused on popular vote at expense of electoral college.

As for third party - I'm not convinced that much more than half the Johnson vote would have gone to Clinton, so I doubt he cost her many states if any.

Stein/Johnson probably cost Clinton MI, but I don't think you can credit any other states she lost to the 3rd party votes.

[edit] Also, giving Clinton MI wouldn't have been enough. She still needed to pick up another state since she lost WI.
 
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sfox wrote:
Stein/Johnson probably cost Clinton MI


I think you mean that Clinton and Trump cost Stein and Johnson.
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