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What a remarkable election, truly remarkable.

Now that I've got a (little) sleep under my belt I wake up to be even more amazed. Trump actually won.

The corruption of the last 8 years have been repudiated.

The lies of the last 8 years have been repudiated.

People wanted a change, and Trump is the chance for that change.

It'll be interesting to see if a quarter of federal employees actually end up quitting like they said they would (consider) if Trump won:

http://abcnewsgo.co/2016/09/25-percent-of-federal-employees-...

Some probably will. I suspect most are feeling they might have spoken in haste...at last it was an anonymous survey.

Or to see if Supreme Court justice Ginsburg actually carries through on her threat to retire:

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-07-11/us-supreme-court-ju...

That would actually be helpful in getting the Court fixed.

I am stunned. I am amazed.

Trump actually won.

I have the highest hopes for this guy going forward.


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I wonder what the republicans will say they need now before doing anything.
They have presidency, senate, house. What are they going to say they need to do anything now?
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Enjoy your change.
I agree with the assessment of some of the problems that beset Western society, I really do. But Trump will fix approximately none of them and will probably make some things worse.

The most interesting thing is going to be seeing how the pin it on The Liberals this time.
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It's good to know that lying and corruption was only invented by Democrats 8 years ago! Thanks I never knew that.
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Fwing wrote:
I agree with the assessment of some of the problems that beset Western society, I really do. But Trump will fix approximately none of them and will probably make some things worse.

This has always been my opinion.
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TheDashi wrote:
I wonder what the republicans will say they need now before doing anything.
They have presidency, senate, house. What are they going to say they need to do anything now?


Yeah, it's always been "Well, we can't do ______, because we need the House!" so we gave them the House. Then it was "Well, we still can't do it because we need the Senate!" so we gave them the Senate. Then it was "Well, we actually need the Presidency, too!"

Now they have that.

No more excuses.


Yeah, they own the next two years.
Put up, or get destroyed next election.
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You know what else won big last night? Marijuana initiatives, those states did it just in time. Millenials can hunker down, baked, with their Xboxes and wait out the next 4 years.
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TheDashi wrote:
Drew1365 wrote:
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I wonder what the republicans will say they need now before doing anything.
They have presidency, senate, house. What are they going to say they need to do anything now?


Yeah, it's always been "Well, we can't do ______, because we need the House!" so we gave them the House. Then it was "Well, we still can't do it because we need the Senate!" so we gave them the Senate. Then it was "Well, we actually need the Presidency, too!"

Now they have that.

No more excuses.


Yeah, they own the next two years.
Put up, or get destroyed next election.


I'm not sure about that--the 2018 map is really strong for the GOP, thanks partly to the gerrymandering. We're probably looking at four years, best case (for me). There are just too many ways the system favors Republicans and extremists.
 
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Ferretman wrote:

The corruption of the last 8 years have been repudiated.

The lies of the last 8 years have been repudiated.
Whoa, whoa, whoa. Just like I have been critical of the bullying by Clinton supporters, this stuff is off the deep end. Obama has been a good President. If he has any faults it is that he did not get to enact more of his agenda because of Congress.

This stuff is why coastal elites think of Trump supporters as uneducated yokels.
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You know what else won big last night? Marijuana initiatives, those states did it just in time. Millenials can hunker down, baked, with their Xboxes and wait out the next 4 years.

Maybe they should have gotten out and voted like grown-ups, instead of pouting in their little safe spaces because Bernie didn't get the nom.
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Millenials can hunker down, baked, with their Xboxes and wait out the next 4 years.


They already do that.

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mtagge wrote:
Ferretman wrote:

The corruption of the last 8 years have been repudiated.

The lies of the last 8 years have been repudiated.
Whoa, whoa, whoa. Just like I have been critical of the bullying by Clinton supporters, this stuff is off the deep end. Obama has been a good President. If he has any faults it is that he did not get to enact more of his agenda because of Congress.

This stuff is why coastal elites think of Trump supporters as uneducated yokels.
What did he not enact that he said he was going to? Serious question. Guantanamo is still open is the only thing I can think of.
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TheDashi wrote:
I wonder what the republicans will say they need now before doing anything.
They have presidency, senate, house. What are they going to say they need to do anything now?


Perhaps they'll take a page out of Obama's playbook for the first 2 years of his presidency. Or, then again, maybe they'll actually get something done.
 
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mtagge wrote:
Obama has been a good President. If he has any faults it is that he did not get to enact more of his agenda because of Congress.


source ? What exactly has he done that been "good" ? his signature accomplishment Obamacare if failing, he spent his entire 8 years mired in miscellaneous undeclared wars and we have a nation more divided then at any time in recent memory.
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TheChin! wrote:
You know what else won big last night? Marijuana initiatives, those states did it just in time. Millenials can hunker down, baked, with their Xboxes and wait out the next 4 years.


Not necessarily. Pot remains illegal under federal law. If the next president/attorney general decide to go after it, it is not clear whether these votes (which I support) would have any meaningful impact.
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Ferretman wrote:

I have the highest hopes for this guy going forward.



I do not. I have high hopes for us as a people, but not for him and not for the presidency. My hopes are that the legislative branch will take seriously their role to hold the executive branch in check. My hope is that we as a people will look at these results and instead of demonizing those who voted for him, we look to understand and this understanding will help close the chasm that has grown in our nation the last two decades.

My hopes for a bright future stem primarily from we as a people looking at what happened, asking "How the hell did we get here," and using this introspection to heal from two decades of divisiveness.

But for Trump himself... I have little to no hope. He is who he is.
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My hopes are that the legislative branch will take seriously their role to hold the executive branch in check.


Why do you have more hope for this than for Trump to bumble into some decent choices?

My read on this election is that it's a reaction to the left's paradigm of power, which is that everybody ought to have pretty much the same amount. As a result, if your group grows more slowly than other groups, it should yield some power to them. That peaceful, equitable sharing of power has been rejected by Republicans. Now, they want to wield as much power as they can get their hands on.

Which, amusingly enough to me, is the worst thing they ever found to say about Clinton. "She's corrupt" just means that she's willing to use any tactics available to accumulate power. So far as I can tell, that was their openly-proclaimed goal. Now that they have the power, are they going to favor doing away with the electoral college so that people share power equally? Or giving territories voting representation in Congress? Will they confirm Merrick Garland (in accordance with the nomination of the duly elected and widely popular President), or begin to favor instant runoff or approval voting? Any likelihood of publicly financed elections to even out power imbalances? You think they're going to act on Trump's proposal to ban the revolving door?

I mean, do you see even a single Republican Congressional Representative displaying any sympathy for any goal which involves yielding power?
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Obama has been a good President. If he has any faults it is that he did not get to enact more of his agenda because of Congress.


source ? What exactly has he done that been "good" ? his signature accomplishment Obamacare if failing, he spent his entire 8 years mired in miscellaneous undeclared wars and we have a nation more decided then at any time in recent memory.


On 53% turnout if the numbers I'm seeing are correct.
 
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rinelk wrote:
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My hopes are that the legislative branch will take seriously their role to hold the executive branch in check.


Why do you have more hope for this than for Trump to bumble into some decent choices?

My read on this election is that it's a reaction to the left's paradigm of power, which is that everybody ought to have pretty much the same amount. As a result, if your group grows more slowly than other groups, it should yield some power to them. That peaceful, equitable sharing of power has been rejected by Republicans. Now, they want to wield as much power as they can get their hands on.

Which, amusingly enough to me, is the worst thing they ever found to say about Clinton. "She's corrupt" just means that she's willing to use any tactics available to accumulate power. So far as I can tell, that was their openly-proclaimed goal. Now that they have the power, are they going to favor doing away with the electoral college so that people share power equally? Or giving territories voting representation in Congress? Will they confirm Merrick Garland (in accordance with the nomination of the duly elected and widely popular President), or begin to favor instant runoff or approval voting? Any likelihood of publicly financed elections to even out power imbalances? You think they're going to act on Trump's proposal to ban the revolving door?

I mean, do you see even a single Republican Congressional Representative displaying any sympathy for any goal which involves yielding power?


Trump ran with an (R) after his name, but he really isn't an (R). My hope is that there are some sane ones left in the Senate and House who see that this could end very not-well. Then instead of a power-grab of D vs R, it becomes a power grab of legislature vs executive. The legislative branch have been walked all over for decades. It would be nice to see them get some power back... and see if they will actually use it for more than just more power-wrangling.
 
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Drew1365 wrote:
TheDashi wrote:
I wonder what the republicans will say they need now before doing anything.
They have presidency, senate, house. What are they going to say they need to do anything now?


Yeah, it's always been "Well, we can't do ______, because we need the House!" so we gave them the House. Then it was "Well, we still can't do it because we need the Senate!" so we gave them the Senate. Then it was "Well, we actually need the Presidency, too!"

Now they have that.

No more excuses.


So Trump won.

Did you vote for him after all Drew as I expected you would?
 
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GameCrossing wrote:
rinelk wrote:
GameCrossing wrote:
My hopes are that the legislative branch will take seriously their role to hold the executive branch in check.


Why do you have more hope for this than for Trump to bumble into some decent choices?

My read on this election is that it's a reaction to the left's paradigm of power, which is that everybody ought to have pretty much the same amount. As a result, if your group grows more slowly than other groups, it should yield some power to them. That peaceful, equitable sharing of power has been rejected by Republicans. Now, they want to wield as much power as they can get their hands on.

Which, amusingly enough to me, is the worst thing they ever found to say about Clinton. "She's corrupt" just means that she's willing to use any tactics available to accumulate power. So far as I can tell, that was their openly-proclaimed goal. Now that they have the power, are they going to favor doing away with the electoral college so that people share power equally? Or giving territories voting representation in Congress? Will they confirm Merrick Garland (in accordance with the nomination of the duly elected and widely popular President), or begin to favor instant runoff or approval voting? Any likelihood of publicly financed elections to even out power imbalances? You think they're going to act on Trump's proposal to ban the revolving door?

I mean, do you see even a single Republican Congressional Representative displaying any sympathy for any goal which involves yielding power?


Trump ran with an (R) after his name, but he really isn't an (R). My hope is that there are some sane ones left in the Senate and House who see that this could end very not-well. Then instead of a power-grab of D vs R, it becomes a power grab of legislature vs executive. The legislative branch have been walked all over for decades. It would be nice to see them get some power back... and see if they will actually use it for more than just more power-wrangling.


I think Trump's margin of victory (especially in many particular states) gives him a mandate to do whatever he wants to do for at least a couple years. Also a mandate to the republican party to do whatever it wants for at least a couple years.
 
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Or to see if Supreme Court justice Ginsburg actually carries through on her threat to retire:


I'd laugh like hell if the old geezer lived into the next term and a Democrat then won the presidency. Ha !
 
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Ferretman wrote:
What a remarkable election, truly remarkable.

Now that I've got a (little) sleep under my belt I wake up to be even more amazed. Trump actually won.

The corruption of the last 8 years have been repudiated.

The lies of the last 8 years have been repudiated.

People wanted a change, and Trump is the chance for that change.

It'll be interesting to see if a quarter of federal employees actually end up quitting like they said they would (consider) if Trump won:

http://abcnewsgo.co/2016/09/25-percent-of-federal-employees-...

Some probably will. I suspect most are feeling they might have spoken in haste...at last it was an anonymous survey.

Or to see if Supreme Court justice Ginsburg actually carries through on her threat to retire:

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-07-11/us-supreme-court-ju...

That would actually be helpful in getting the Court fixed.

I am stunned. I am amazed.

Trump actually won.

I have the highest hopes for this guy going forward.


Ferret


Could you please donate your brain to science when you die? I think it would be useful to study how delusional neural networks form.
 
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