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Well, here we are. Repubs have the White House, Congress, totally control 33 state legislatures and split another four, and have 33 Governorships (actually 34 at least. Alaska's independent gov is a conservative Repub). SCOTUS looks like a lock for the next generation.

Certainly it won't last forever, but it is what it is for now.

All the talk of the demise of the Republican Party was not only premature, but silly. Here is a blueprint for dems to keep their party from fading into obscurity. The current plan: Winning state legislatures in order to get a redistricting advantage looks like a long shot, and is not even a real plan. You first need to win.

Democrats have certainly come a long way on the politics of fear, fear of cutting social security, fear of back room abortions, fear of cutting welfare, and more recently fear of deportation, fear that states will be able to define marriage, fear that Muslims will be persecuted.

Fear worked.

It may continue to work.

But consider. The elderly who could be counted on to vote dem for fear of social security cuts are dying off. The new generation of elderly have long lived under the assumption they could not rely on social security. They were much younger 30 years ago when that fear was at its height, and many realized the system needed reform back then. FDR democrats who assumed social security was an entitlement promised to them are thinning.

News in the last couple days is that illegals are headed back home. No need to debate whether it is true or not, but consider: if Trump can get a handle on illegals, if the flood stops, if they go back home, that is bad news for dems, and not for the reason you have considered.

If friends and relatives are no longer here, or have gone back and applied to be here legally... there is no longer a fear of deportation.

Assuming only legal immigrants voted (big assumption) and the fear of their friends and family being deported was a real fear causing them to vote democrat, if Trump follows through that fear is off the table. And not only is it off the table, if repubs can follow through and create some legal way to be here repubs get the credit. If Trump doesn't follow through it is still an issue.

It's kind of like voting to save your job. If you lose your job any way, you get a new job, you now feel more secure, you are now voting with different priorities, if you fail to find a new job you are still voting with different priorities.

Hispanic political support also varies from state to state, region to region, and issue to issue, but it is true that they trend democrat. Will that be true with fear off the table? There is a lot about Hispanic culture that is conservative. They might just be where they will end up on the conservative end of the spectrum.

Also of significance to dems: 10% of young black voters voted Trump. Doesn't sound too important, does it? I guarantee you that causes a great deal of concern to party big wigs. If dems can't count on 95% of the black vote, they lose in states they currently control. Dems cannot afford to lose a small portion of that voting block, and it is one of the last big voting blocks they can rely on.

I'm looking at the news of the day and reading libs in RSP, and I don't think they get it. When fear is all you got, double down, I guess. Fortunately for you the Clinton era of the party is over. If the new blood doesn't understand that the well of fear may have run dry, you may continue to be a failed party. True, abortion and gay marriage are still on the table... but are they viable fears anymore? I don't think so, but those are 2 minor issues I choose not to address at the moment and fear or no fear, they've still got those voters nailed down.

Seniors and Latinos were 2 big cornerstones of the democrat coalition, and they may be slipping away. You may not make much of it, but I am positive democrat strategists are at work this moment to bring that fringe of young blacks into the fold.
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Man, the Republicans sneak by with the tiniest of margins with half the country not even voting, and now we get arm chair republican philosophers in RSP. Just because a broken clock is right twice a day doesn't mean you have some grand insight.

Take it easy there Socrates.
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Koldfoot wrote:
Well, here we are. Repubs have the White House, Congress, totally control 33 state legislatures and split another four, and have 33 Governorships (actually 34 at least. Alaska's independent gov is a conservative Repub). SCOTUS looks like a lock for the next generation.

Certainly it won't last forever, but it is what it is for now.

All the talk of the demise of the Republican Party was not only premature, but silly. Here is a blueprint for dems to keep their party from fading into obscurity. The current plan: Winning state legislatures in order to get a redistricting advantage looks like a long shot, and is not even a real plan. You first need to win.

Democrats have certainly come a long way on the politics of fear, fear of cutting social security, fear of back room abortions, fear of cutting welfare, and more recently fear of deportation, fear that states will be able to define marriage, fear that Muslims will be persecuted.

Fear worked.

It may continue to work.

But consider. The elderly who could be counted on to vote dem for fear of social security cuts are dying off. The new generation of elderly have long lived under the assumption they could not rely on social security. They were much younger 30 years ago when that fear was at its height, and many realized the system needed reform back then. FDR democrats who assumed social security was an entitlement promised to them are thinning.

News in the last couple days is that illegals are headed back home. No need to debate whether it is true or not, but consider: if Trump can get a handle on illegals, if the flood stops, if they go back home, that is bad news for dems, and not for the reason you have considered.

If friends and relatives are no longer here, or have gone back and applied to be here legally... there is no longer a fear of deportation.

Assuming only legal immigrants voted (big assumption) and the fear of their friends and family being deported was a real fear causing them to vote democrat, if Trump follows through that fear is off the table. And not only is it off the table, if repubs can follow through and create some legal way to be here repubs get the credit. If Trump doesn't follow through it is still an issue.

It's kind of like voting to save your job. If you lose your job any way, you get a new job, you now feel more secure, you are now voting with different priorities, if you fail to find a new job you are still voting with different priorities.

Hispanic political support also varies from state to state, region to region, and issue to issue, but it is true that they trend democrat. Will that be true with fear off the table? There is a lot about Hispanic culture that is conservative. They might just be where they will end up on the conservative end of the spectrum.

Also of significance to dems: 10% of young black voters voted Trump. Doesn't sound too important, does it? I guarantee you that causes a great deal of concern to party big wigs. If dems can't count on 95% of the black vote, they lose in states they currently control. Dems cannot afford to lose a small portion of that voting block, and it is one of the last big voting blocks they can rely on.

I'm looking at the news of the day and reading libs in RSP, and I don't think they get it. When fear is all you got, double down, I guess. Fortunately for you the Clinton era of the party is over. If the new blood doesn't understand that the well of fear may have run dry, you may continue to be a failed party. True, abortion and gay marriage are still on the table... but are they viable fears anymore? I don't think so, but those are 2 minor issues I choose not to address at the moment and fear or no fear, they've still got those voters nailed down.

Seniors and Latinos were 2 big cornerstones of the democrat coalition, and they may be slipping away. You may not make much of it, but I am positive democrat strategists are at work this moment to bring that fringe of young blacks into the fold.


Let's wait and see if the Orange Orangutan actually does anything useful and whether the GOP House and Senate give him even a fraction of what he wants. The GOP split is far from healed and the underlying ideological faultlines have yet to show themselves in this new "unified" government.

As to the future, millenials will continue to age and become the dominant voting block. A failure by Trump and the GOP to achieve constructive goals won't lure them into the GOP tent. Repealing the ACA won't resolve the massive issues that existed before Obama and attacking free trade is no guarantee of improving the lives of those critical blue collar whites as we may yet return to the trade wars and poor economy that predated Reagan.

For my part, I voted Reagan and both Bushes. I left the GOP to become an independent in 2003. I think it's time to fully transition to the Democratic Party which I have been loathe to do. I know I'll contribute time and money to them which I've never done before. Thanks Trump for pushing me off the fence.

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2003?

They lost me with Dole.

To be fair though, the state republican parties are not as weak, liberal and fractured as the national party. The federal gov't has become so powerful that legislators in DC are more interested in power and greed than the country. Federal power needs to be diminished, and the powerful will fight to retain it.
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Koldfoot wrote:

Democrats have certainly come a long way on the politics of fear, fear of cutting social security, fear of back room abortions, fear of cutting welfare, and more recently fear of deportation, fear that states will be able to define marriage, fear that Muslims will be persecuted.

Fear worked.



??? What other platform than fear has the Republican party? Fear of muslims aka terrorists, fear of illegal immigrants, fear of women making their own choices, fear of crime and drugs, fear of government, fear of the national debt, fear of the poor aka "socialism", fear of blacks, fear of gays demeaning your marriage, fear of the future aka glorifying the past, fear of the young and over all fear of the "liberals" coming for you. I don't own a gun; so who is afraid?
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odie73 wrote:
Koldfoot wrote:

Democrats have certainly come a long way on the politics of fear, fear of cutting social security, fear of back room abortions, fear of cutting welfare, and more recently fear of deportation, fear that states will be able to define marriage, fear that Muslims will be persecuted.

Fear worked.



??? What other platform than fear has the Republican party? Fear of muslims aka terrorists, fear of illegal immigrants, fear of women making their own choices, fear of crime and drugs, fear of government, fear of the national debt, fear of the poor aka "socialism", fear of blacks, fear of gays demeaning your marriage, fear of the future aka glorifying the past, fear of the young and over all fear of the "liberals" coming for you. I don't own a gun; so who is afraid?


Yes, republicans use fear.

None of which matters to the OP.

But your list is pretty damn lame. You had to make shit up to get a long list. You would have been better advised to stick to a couple credible points.

No need to than me for the advice.
 
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Koldfoot wrote:
...I'm looking at the news of the day and reading libs in RSP, and I don't think they get it. When fear is all you got, double down, I guess.....


Some seem to be breaking out of their PC bubbles and attempting to deal with the outside world. However, for the most part, they do appear to be "doubling down". Anyone who disagrees with them is "uneducated and stupid" and therefore intellectually incapable of seeing their "truth".
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