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https://www.yahoo.com/news/jersey-man-arrested-300-toll-viol...
 
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Five E-Z passes? So the New York-New Jersey Toll Authority is as efficient as the one here in Oklahoma. Beautiful.
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Why would he have five EZPass accounts? What would that get him?
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Why would he have five EZPass accounts? What would that get him?


Not sure how the toll/Ez pass system works out there in the hinterlands.

Victim of identity theft?

Get a pass in his name to dodge the bill?
 
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damiangerous wrote:
Why would he have five EZPass accounts? What would that get him?


Five times the EZ, bro.
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damiangerous wrote:
Why would he have five EZPass accounts? What would that get him?


Five times the EZ, bro.


He got confused he thought it meant his comcast information supper highway would be five times as fast.


 
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Personally I view toll roads as a complete failure of government to provide infrastructure to it's citizens. The fact that we have to rely on private businesses to facilitate transportation is a regression and the fact that Republicans are looking to expand public-private partnerships is a travesty.

The fact that a single's person's use of transportation (and fines which is actually overhead) can run up to $20K shows how inept our government is.
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mtagge wrote:
Ferretman wrote:
Personally I view toll roads as a complete failure of government to provide infrastructure to it's citizens. The fact that we have to rely on private businesses to facilitate transportation is a regression and the fact that Republicans are looking to expand public-private partnerships is a travesty.

The fact that a single's person's use of transportation (and fines which is actually overhead) can run up to $20K shows how inept our government is.


Pssst. It happened in New Jersey.

Yes it is a failed govt. I'm really not sure how you worked republicans into the scenario, though.
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Pssst. It happened in New Jersey.

Yes it is a failed govt. I'm really not sure how you worked republicans into the scenario, though.
Trump campaigned on public-private partnerships for his infrastructure package. Ryan supports public-private partnerships. Public-private partnerships is basically code for tolls, huge overhead costs, and private profits for public services. It's a basic tenant of their platform.

We have toll roads in Virginia that were supposed to revert to public roads over a decade ago. Fail.
 
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damiangerous wrote:
Why would he have five EZPass accounts? What would that get him?

4 of them probably stopped working because he didnt pay them
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Personally I view toll roads as a complete failure of government to provide infrastructure to it's citizens. The fact that we have to rely on private businesses to facilitate transportation is a regression and the fact that Republicans are looking to expand public-private partnerships is a travesty.

how about a little eminent domain on the jersey turnpike~
 
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mtagge wrote:


We have toll roads in Virginia that were supposed to revert to public roads over a decade ago. Fail.


Why did the state of Virginia not revert? I agree with you; there should be hard sunsets for any infrastructure repayment/expansion as a condition of the additional construction.

I think that may be the nub of your issue here. Why weren't they turned back over to the public domain?


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Ferretman wrote:
mtagge wrote:


We have toll roads in Virginia that were supposed to revert to public roads over a decade ago. Fail.


Why did the state of Virginia not revert? I agree with you; there should be hard sunsets for any infrastructure repayment/expansion as a condition of the additional construction.

I think that may be the nub of your issue here. Why weren't they turned back over to the public domain?


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I'm pretty sure it was something like the toll road operators offered to continue to maintain the road (which frankly is easier as no trailers drive on it) for continued toll collection and the county didn't object seeing as how it was still a budget win so they extended the program. At the end of the day it is easier to continue to let government behave in a failed state than add a cost like road maintenance to the budget. After all the booths are already in place.

Frankly I'd rather see all cars charged per mile driven by an check at the yearly safety inspection (and those farm trucks can just get an exemption). Since we seem to have failed to collect enough road revenue from gas taxes.
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how about a little eminent domain on the jersey turnpike~
How long has that one been a toll? I remember paying tolls on the Pennsylvania Turnpike when we drove to Grandma's place every summer 20+ years ago. Looks like it's still a toll. :sigh: Our government still hasn't figured out taxes.
 
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Forgive me a sleepiness moment, but...

Why do we have both a gasoline tax and a gasoline subsidy concurrently? Is there a logical answer besides "politics is a ridiculous business"?
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Forgive me a sleepiness moment, but...

Why do we have both a gasoline tax and a gasoline subsidy concurrently? Is there a logical answer besides "politics is a ridiculous business"?

the tax is paid by the consumers while the subsidy goes to the companies - so in other words yet another case of corporate welfare
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not all heroes wear capes.
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mtagge wrote:


Frankly I'd rather see all cars charged per mile driven by an check at the yearly safety inspection (and those farm trucks can just get an exemption). Since we seem to have failed to collect enough road revenue from gas taxes.


Actually I think we'd be better served to do something along those lines, but we can do without the silly yearly inspection. That's a massive increase in government infrastructure and long lines, all with the efficiency of the Post Office.

Better is to provide a couple of options for monthly/quarterly/year surchages based on reported mileage and a little table of miles vs. weight. Maybe 1% of folks are randomly checked that their numbers are accurate, and ginormous fines are levied if there's fraud of some kind.

I believe there's a pilot program of some kind in Colorado, and I'm sure there are others being tested as well around the country.



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not all heroes wear capes.


Very true....?


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