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Subject: Can the beetle be placed on top of the wasp to stop it moving? rss

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Max Maximus
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Its a bit of a power move, and me and my wife always seem to disagree on whether it is a 'fair' move

 
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Andreas Krüger
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Kingtreelo wrote:
Its a bit of a power move, and me and my wife always seem to disagree on whether it is a 'fair' move



You mean the queen bee? Yes, it is allowed.
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Kingtreelo wrote:
Its a bit of a power move, and me and my wife always seem to disagree on whether it is a 'fair' move



Move your beetle on top of your own queen, when the opponent beetle gets near, pin it! Totally fair.
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Max Maximus
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zombiegod wrote:
Kingtreelo wrote:
Its a bit of a power move, and me and my wife always seem to disagree on whether it is a 'fair' move



Place a beetle on top of your own queen, when the opponent beetle gets near, pin it! Totally fair.


damn, never thought of doing that!

cheers guys
 
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Andy Burgess
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If you see it coming, position your own beetle to go immediately on top of the opposing beetle after it's put on your queen bee. That'll prevent the strategy from doing as much harm - in fact, if you do this, it's not as good as a standard pin on the queen bee, because yes, it locks it in place, but doesn't help to surround it.

Also, you'll probably have time to go on the offensive whilst your opponent is wasting time positioning their beetle.

Semi-ninja'd - I like the idea of pinning the beetle when it's close but that's not quite the same as pinning it on top, which I actually think can be better.
 
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Max Maximus
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just tried this, and my son stuck his second beetle on top of my one that was blocking him


ggggrrrrrrrrrrr
 
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Robert Bracey
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The Beetle attack is one of the basic drivers of the game. It is one of the reasons to get your Queen down early and get some Ants on the table and on the outside of the Hive. Remember that the opponent has only two Beetles.

The Beetle attack is not any faster than a conventional attack. Place an Ant, move the Ant, place a Beetle, move the Beetle *twice* (over the Ant), now you can place two Grasshoppers directly around the opponents Queen, finally place and move one more piece, then move the Beetle off into the empty space = total 10 moves. That is the same as placing then moving five pieces (10 moves) and one move slower than if your first Ant pins an opposing piece against the Queen and the completes the surround (9 moves).

The main risk with the Beetle is that your opponent plays a defence and uses those three moves (place-move-move) to develop pieces (say the three Ants), which then allows them to cripple your subsequent deployment. And of course there is always the possibility of playing a Beetle to cover the attacking Beetle.



 
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Kingtreelo wrote:
just tried this, and my son stuck his second beetle on top of my one that was blocking him


ggggrrrrrrrrrrr


I love the alternating stack of beetles on top of a queen. I think we got all the way to four of them once.
 
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