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James Lautermilch
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All that information is in the playbook
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Rich Horton
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pkspacejam wrote:
im staring at the playbook now, it only tells you what corps are attached and what hex it is in, does not say how much SP is contained in an army to start

looking at scenario 2 the debacle


It is all there. The armies SPs are broken down by their individual corps. So the Prussian 1st Army has the VII Corps (5Sp), the VIII Corps (5Sp), I CD (2 CSp), etc.
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pkspacejam wrote:
that still doesnt follow. I found on the first page of the playbook that they actually say all armies start with 4 SP, im not talking about attachments or corps, just the SP contained in the army.


OK. Didn't follow you there. Yes, 19.2 states all armies start with 4 unless otherwise noted.
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Rich has it correct.

See 19.2:
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All Armies in all scenarios begin with four Regular Infantry SPs unless explicitly stated otherwise.


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kbernatz wrote:
Rich has it correct.

See 19.2:
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All Armies in all scenarios begin with four Regular Infantry SPs unless explicitly stated otherwise.


-K (developer On To Paris!)


Ok, I feel like I'm missing something.....Armies get 4 organic SPs in addition to the SPs belonging to the attached formations? Representing what? That's a corps-sized force....
 
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Milan Becvar
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It represents all the fractions of SP at the Armies disposal among its assets (unattached brigades, regiments as well as intrinsic forces etc) and the Armies function as a conduit for the SPs held by the Corps (those portions of SP 'in progress or in the pipeline' as reinforcements to the Armies attached units).

While it looks like an tempting extra force it is also another 'hungry mouth to feed' with reinforcements once the action heat up. :smile:

The SP with the Army represent the physical presence of the Army within the Corps Structure outside the individual Corps and Cavalry Divisions attached to the Army. ie

1) Army attached Units
SP held by the Army (and it will be less quite quickly as the friction of war sets in) is an abstract representation of regiments or brigades which are not assigned to the Corps directly but attached to the Army.

2) Intrinsic Forces
The SP also represent all the fractions of Strength Points for the logistic, provost, engineer units and line of communication, security duties etc

3) Armies In Transit Reinforcement
The SP capture the SPs moving 'in the moment' as the reinforcement 'tail' for the Armies Corps and Cavalry Divisions 'in transit'.

From the players viewpoint the additional Army SP are useful to preventing an Army getting into too much trouble with more open dispersal or defensive tactics or providing that little bit extra on offense. But Players should not be very careful about depleting and not maintaining the Armies intrinsic SP as that makes the Army more vulnerable and reduces the flexibility of the Army Corps structure lest the Army get into trouble by itself etc.
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