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Clinton's lead in the popular vote surpasses 2 million
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The former secretary of state has garnered 64,223,958 votes, compared to the President-elect’s 62,206,395, according to a count curated by Dave Wasserman of the nonpartisan Cook Political Report.
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Clinton's lead in the popular vote surpasses 2 million
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The former secretary of state has garnered 64,223,958 votes, compared to the President-elect’s 62,206,395, according to a count curated by Dave Wasserman of the nonpartisan Cook Political Report.


A conservative friend of mine bet me the day after the election, when all the votes were tallied, that Trump would have more.

One small victory helps heal my political wounds.
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utoption2 wrote:
I am wondering how many more posts we will see regarding how many X more votes Chilton's lead is in the popular vote?

Maybe we should start a contest.


Bothers you doesn't it?
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Yup, she lost and it doesn't matter a great deal. I think it is reasonable to bring up as a counterargument to any claim of a Trump mandate, silent majority, etc, but as an OP it's not of much use.
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Yup, she lost and it doesn't matter a great deal. I think it is reasonable to bring up as a counterargument to any claim of a Trump mandate, silent majority, etc, but as an OP it's not of much use.


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Yea but what are the numbers after we subtract the illegals who voted?


How about the dead people who voted? We need to subtract those out, too.

And what about the 'non-real' people that the hackers from Russia hacked into the voting system?


After all of that it's 69 to 40.
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"Checkmate"

"Good, the game's over. I have the most pieces on the board. I win!"

Nobody's saying that. The greater Clinton's margin in the popular vote, the more reassuring it is to those of us who would like to believe the country hasn't gone fucking insane. If, like utoption2, you don't find that topic interesting, then one wonders why you opened this thread in the first place; the title was pretty clear.
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utoption2 wrote:
I appreciate this post. I think what I am hoping is that the democrats will also direct their interest into analyzing what caused this near-landslide in the EC to erupt?


Like a dozen different topics on that were also posted at various points after the election.
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kuhrusty wrote:
Sky Knight X wrote:
"Checkmate"

"Good, the game's over. I have the most pieces on the board. I win!"

Nobody's saying that. The greater Clinton's margin in the popular vote, the more reassuring it is to those of us who would like to believe the country hasn't gone fucking insane. If, like utoption2, you don't find that topic interesting, then one wonders why you opened this thread in the first place; the title was pretty clear.


As soon as you use the current vote as leverage, or give it importance, then the current popular vote becomes bogus because the rules immediately change. The second you assign meaning, the game changes, and no one knows what the new popular vote would be with the new rules.

Had popular vote been meaningful to the Presidency in any way, the popular vote would have been very different than it is now with the current rules.
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Sky Knight X wrote:
kuhrusty wrote:
The greater Clinton's margin in the popular vote, the more reassuring it is to those of us who would like to believe the country hasn't gone fucking insane.

As soon as you use the current vote as leverage, or give it importance, then the current popular vote becomes bogus because the rules immediately change. The second you assign meaning, the game changes, and no one knows what the new popular vote would be with the new rules.

Had popular vote been meaningful to the Presidency in any way, the popular vote would have been very different than it is now with the current rules.

Err... then I guess I must be wrong about it making me feel better or something? Thanks for the clarification?
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kuhrusty wrote:
Sky Knight X wrote:
"Checkmate"

"Good, the game's over. I have the most pieces on the board. I win!"

Nobody's saying that. The greater Clinton's margin in the popular vote, the more reassuring it is to those of us who would like to believe the country hasn't gone fucking insane. If, like utoption2, you don't find that topic interesting, then one wonders why you opened this thread in the first place; the title was pretty clear.


Except they still voted for Hillary, so no consolation provided by that knowledge.
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kuhrusty wrote:
Nobody's saying that. The greater Clinton's margin in the popular vote, the more reassuring it is to those of us who would like to believe the country hasn't gone fucking insane. If, like utoption2, you don't find that topic interesting, then one wonders why you opened this thread in the first place; the title was pretty clear.

Except they still voted for Hillary, so no consolation provided by that knowledge.

What language do I need to use in Google Translate to understand what this person is saying?
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utoption2 wrote:
I appreciate this post. I think what I am hoping is that the democrats will also direct their interest into analyzing what caused this near-landslide in the EC to erupt?

in what world is 306-232 a "near landslide"
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It is hilarious to me that the pro-EC people are against the electors doing the one reasonable thing it was designed to do and block insane people from becoming president. Of course, you can't really expect principled or intellectual honesty from Trump supporters.
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utoption2 wrote:
I appreciate this post. I think what I am hoping is that the democrats will also direct their interest into analyzing what caused this near-landslide in the EC to erupt?
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in what world is 306-232 a "near landslide"
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Out of curiosity, anyone know how accurate the popular vote count is? I've read that it doesn't count mail in votes in states that are solid one color or the other.

All in all it is moot. I didn't bother to send in a mail in ballot as it wouldn't have been counted (solid blowout in my district for every issue and office).

Also the system isn't setup to take an accurate pulse of the electorate. We still vote on a Tuesday, don't have instant run-off, state voting rules and regulations vary drastically, and archaic voting equipment in many places. I saw stories of people standing in line upwards of four hours to vote, absolutely ludicrous.
 
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Well it doesn't matter, all of those voters live in California so they don't matter, unlike the voters in Iowa who are way more important because they own acres of land instead of a tiny lot barely big enough to put a house on.
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Out of curiosity, anyone know how accurate the popular vote count is? I've read that it doesn't count mail in votes in states that are solid one color or the other.

All in all it is moot. I didn't bother to send in a mail in ballot as it wouldn't have been counted (solid blowout in my district for every issue and office).

Also the system isn't setup to take an accurate pulse of the electorate. We still vote on a Tuesday, don't have instant run-off, state voting rules and regulations vary drastically, and archaic voting equipment in many places. I saw stories of people standing in line upwards of four hours to vote, absolutely ludicrous.


California apparently counts them all which is why it's taking a while to get the final count there.

But I'm sure it's not millions of votes off all in one direction.
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kuhrusty wrote:
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The greater Clinton's margin in the popular vote, the more reassuring it is to those of us who would like to believe the country hasn't gone fucking insane.

As soon as you use the current vote as leverage, or give it importance, then the current popular vote becomes bogus because the rules immediately change. The second you assign meaning, the game changes, and no one knows what the new popular vote would be with the new rules.

Had popular vote been meaningful to the Presidency in any way, the popular vote would have been very different than it is now with the current rules.

Err... then I guess I must be wrong about it making me feel better or something? Thanks for the clarification?


Sorry Rusty. I even had something written about that before I chopped most of my earlier post for the sake of brevity.

If the reason it is brought up so much in here is for reassurance or to make someone feel better, then you are right. That's a personal thing and I understand it.

But to be fair, go back and read some of the other posts about the popular vote. I wouldn't say that reassurance has often been the motive behind bringing it up.
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utoption2 wrote:
I appreciate this post. I think what I am hoping is that the democrats will also direct their interest into analyzing what caused this near-landslide in the EC to erupt?

in what world is 306-232 a "near landslide"


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utoption2 wrote:
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I am wondering how many more posts we will see regarding how many X more votes Chilton's lead is in the popular vote?

Maybe we should start a contest.


Bothers you doesn't it?


It just doesn't have any point.

It will matter once republicans start claiming they have an overwhelming mandate to drastically change something that affects everyone in the country.
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utoption2 wrote:
Not having a mandate didn't stop Bush/Cheney from sucking us into a meaningless, unending war. Did it?

They claimed they did.
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