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Geoff Conn
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So PP is the only new game I have bought in the last few months. As a hisconsim and ccg player, it fascinated me, and so far the game experience does not disappoint.

But what does disappoint is the box size. I sleeved my cards, and even with the insert removed, I cannot put them back in the box.

Really, Sierra Madre?!?
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Talonz wrote:
So PP is the only new game I have bought in the last few months. As a hisconsim and ccg player, it fascinated me, and so far the game experience does not disappoint.

But what does disappoint is the box size. I sleeved my cards, and even with the insert removed, I cannot put them back in the box.

Really, Sierra Madre?!?


Is it a bad time to mention there is an expansion?
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I love the box size, super portable. If you want plenty of space buy the deluxe version of Pax Porfiriana with board for both it and Pax Pamir in a nice big box
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+1 for the box size being fantastic as is.
Great portability.

PLB.
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Talonz wrote:
But what does disappoint is the box size. I sleeved my cards, and even with the insert removed, I cannot put them back in the box.
I love the small boxes from Sierra Madre Games, and my Pax Pamir cards fit in the box sleeved. I use the thin Swan Panasia sleeves, and they are terrific. Sadly once I added in the Pax Pamir: Khyber Knives nothing but the cards fit in the box, but as I keep the Pax Pamir box inside the Pax Porfiriana Deluxe Edition box, I just had to put the extras in that box.
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I would have prefed a Pax Renaissance sized box. Pamir is the first game where I found the game too small.
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I sleeved my cards as well (Ultra Pro) and I had to use the Pax Porfiriana deluxe box to store them. That box is also quite full and I have yet to add the Khyber Knives expansion.

The Pax Renaissance box isn't much better. I can barely fit in the (sleeved) base game. The expansion won't fit for sure.
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RvdH83 wrote:
The Pax Renaissance box isn't much better. I can barely fit in the (sleeved) base game. The expansion won't fit for sure.
I found the Pax Renaissance box the perfect size. I sleeved all the cards, including the expansion deck, and everything fits perfectly in the box. You may want to check out the excellent Swan Panasia thin sleeves, although I used their thick sleeves for certain cards in the game.
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Yokiboy wrote:
RvdH83 wrote:
The Pax Renaissance box isn't much better. I can barely fit in the (sleeved) base game. The expansion won't fit for sure.
I found the Pax Renaissance box the perfect size. I sleeved all the cards, including the expansion deck, and everything fits perfectly in the box. You may want to check out the excellent Swan Panasia thin sleeves, although I used their thick sleeves for certain cards in the game.


I only use Swans for irregular sized cards. Their sleeves are OK, but I tend to prefer Ultra Pro, FFG or Arcane Tinmen.
 
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RvdH83 wrote:
I only use Swans for irregular sized cards. Their sleeves are OK, but I tend to prefer Ultra Pro, FFG or Arcane Tinmen.
Which explains why your cards don't fit in the box.
 
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Yokiboy wrote:
I love the small boxes from Sierra Madre Games, and my Pax Pamir cards fit in the box sleeved. I use the thin Swan Panasia sleeves, and they are terrific.


Which size exactly?
 
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Talonz wrote:
Which size exactly?
Swan Panasia 57x90mm sleeves, both the Thin, and the Thick sleeves of that size works well. Personally I do most cards (like the main deck) in the thin sleeves, but some of the special cards I sleeve in the thick sleeves. I buy mine from Smiling-Monster.com, or directly from Swan Panasia at SPIEL.
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If I remember it correctly, Phil spoke about this in an interview last year after PSI ended their partnership; the short is that the original driving force behind this was production and shipping costs bump up almost exponentially with a larger box (and he was worried about Pax Ren being almost too large to ship out of Europe without a US distributor). That's actually part of the reason we have Pax Porfiriana; Jim Gutt tinkered with the design for a while saying you could do a Lords style game with just cards and still have a similar feel. Phil wasn't real interested until it became an issue with shipping a few years ago. Since they have been successful (and profitable) so far, Phil's ok with continuing with that focus and "packing a big game in a small box" as he calls it.
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After the Khyber Knives expansion I had to move everything into a Plano box. Looks like crap. Fortunately the gameplay makes up for this.
 
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After sleeving half my deck of Pax Porforiana and realizing it would not fit in the small box, which was very attractive to me, I unsleeved the deck except for the hacendado cards and never looked back. We must get over the desire to protect everything.

+1 to small boxes, specially awesome games like the Pax series.
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