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1Goal

The Liberals win if:
Secret Hitler is killed
or
five liberal policies are enacted

The Fascists and Secret Hitler win if:
six fascist policies are enacted
or
Secret Hitler is elected chancellor after a third fascist policy has been enacted.


2Setup

Each player will get one of three roles. There will be:

5 Liberals (Don't know anyone's role)
2 Fascists (Knows who is secret Hitler)
1 Secret Hitler (Doesn't know who are the Fascists)

In a paper game you would get more cards for votes and other stuff but we won't need them here!

A table order will be randomly determined as well as a first president.

The policy deck will be shuffled. It contains:
11 Fascist policy cards and 6 Liberal policy cards.

3Gameplay

Game takes place over a series of rounds.

1Election
The next player on table order becomes president (skipped on first round) and nominates a Chancellor. A player who has enacted the last policy cannot be nominated as chancellor. (This includes the last president and the last chancellor in an 8 player game)

Then every player will vote to approve or not this legislative duo. 5 yes votes means they have been elected.

If there are not five YES votes then the president passes to the next player.

If 3 elections fail in a row. A random policy is drawn from the top of the deck and is immediately enacted. Everyone is eligible to be president or chancellor on the next round if this happens.

After an election succeeds, we go to the Legislative phase.

Remember, If 3 fascist policies have been enacted and secret Hitler is elected chancellor, he reveals himself and the game is immediately over. The fascists and Secret Hitler win.

2Legislative Phase

As soon as we enter this phase: NO POSTING IS ALLOWED.

The president draws 3 policies from the deck and discards one face down and passes the remaining two to the chancellor. The Chancellors then also discards one face down and the last card is revealed and enacted.

If there are fewer than 3 policies left in the deck, we pick up all discarded cards and shuffle them with the remaining cards to create a new deck.

3Executive action phase

Whenever a policy is enacted it is placed on its corresponding track. Liberal policies have no effect and this phase is skipped But whenever a fascist policy is enacted, it may grant a special power usable at this phase.

the power MUST be used.

(The following section will be edited when we know the number of players)
With 8 players, here are the powers:

First Fascist Policy: None
Second Fascist Policy: Investigation (the President gets to look at the party affiliation – but not the role – of one other player)
Third Fascist Policy: Special Election (The President gets to choose any one other player, even the previous Chancellor, to be the next Presidential candidate)
(endsection)

At this point the Fascists win if Secret Hitler is elected as chancellor!

Fourth Fascist Policy: Execution (President chooses someone to be eliminated from the game and cannot say anything more, that player's role is not revealed unless he is secret Hitler in which case the liberals win!)
Fifth Fascist Policy: Execution (President chooses someone to be eliminated from the game and cannot say anything more, that player's role is not revealed unless he is secret Hitler in which case the liberals win!)

Veto Power: At this point, after the president has passed 2 policy cards to the chancellor, the chancellor may declares he wants to veto the agenda. The president has to decide if he also wants to veto. If he does not, policy is enacted. If he does approve, both cards are discarded face down and president passes to the next player in the table order.

IMPORTANT: Using the veto power counts as a failed government. meaning it will count the same way as voting no in the elections. (if this or no votes happen 3 times in a row, a random policy will be enacted from the top of the deck.

Sixth Fascist Policy: The fascists win! Heil Secret Hitler!

***Rules post stolen from mrfan, who stole it from SarahBoBara, who stole it from Xapi, who stole it from Floofies who stole it from ljtrigirl, who stole it from Borgoto***


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VOTE! Voting links: JA/NEIN

Rules: http://maxtemk.in/3V0t2o3T163K

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Alec Usticke
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I'd love to play.
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I'd play.
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Doctor Tom
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I'd like to play again please.
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Dake Jimson
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What a concept.
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I'm in!
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This game better be available from the publisher before Christmas or it will mean a HUGE loss of $$$ for the publisher devil
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Ed Simons
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I'm interested.
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David Goldfarb
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Cool. I've also geekmailed Kevin and Likeless; given the holiday just past, I'll wait a little for them to reply.
 
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Kevin Youells
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I paid 100 geek gold, and all I got was this lousy overtext
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David Goldfarb wrote:
Cool. I've also geekmailed Kevin and Likeless; given the holiday just past, I'll wait a little for them to reply.


Thanks for the invite, but I'm going to have to give this one a pass. Holiday season and all, I don't think I'd be able to give you the attention the game needs.

Maybe after the New Year, guys. Have fun!
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Well at least we have 5, so we have the minimum.
Hopefully Likeless will be available, but then we'd still need someone else for a 7th player.
I think perhaps in that instance we could try 6p, to avoid the execution insta-win.
 
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I'll jump in!
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David Goldfarb
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We're up to 7 now. I'll wait till tomorrow morning (about 12 hours from when I write this) to see if Likeless responds, and if we haven't heard from him by then I'll start.
 
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Round 1.1
President: njmac
Chancellor: TomTi89

njmac JA
GaiusJC JA
EdSimons JA
mrfan NEIN
TomTi89 JA
pratchettfan777 JA
Likeless NEIN
Dake JA
austicke NEIN

Liberal policy enacted. Liberals 1, Fascists 0


Pratchettfan drops out, game restarts.

Round 1.1
President: EdSimons
Chancellor: Likeless

EdSimons JA
GaiusJC NEIN
njmac JA
austicke NEIN
mrfan NEIN
TomTi89 NEIN
Dake NEIN
Likeless JA

Round 1.2
President: GaiusJC
Chancellor: njmac

EdSimons NEIN
GaiusJC JA
njmac JA
austicke NEIN
mrfan NEIN
TomTi89 NEIN
Dake JA
Likeless NEIN

Round 1.3
President: njmac
Chancellor: EdSimons

EdSimons JA
GaiusJC JA
njmac JA
austicke JA
mrfan JA
TomTi89 JA
Dake JA
Likeless JA

Fascist policy enacted. Liberals 0, Fascists 1.

Round 2.1
President: austicke
Chancellor: Likeless

EdSimons (omitted due to moderator error)
GaiusJC JA
njmac JA
austicke JA
mrfan NEIN
TomTi89 NEIN
Dake JA
Likeless JA

Fascist policy enacted. Liberals 0, Fascists 2.

Round 3.1
President: mrfan
Chancellor: EdSimons

EdSimons JA
GaiusJC JA
njmac JA
austicke JA
mrfan JA
TomTi89 NEIN
Dake JA
Likeless JA

Liberal policy enacted. Liberals 1, Fascists 2.

Round 4.1
President: TomTi89
Chancellor: Dake

EdSimons JA
GaiusJC JA
njmac NEIN
austicke NEIN
mrfan JA
TomTi89 JA
Dake JA
Likeless NEIN

Liberal policy enacted. Liberals 2, Fascists 2.

Round 5.1
President: Dake
Chancellor: mrfan

EdSimons JA
GaiusJC NEIN
njmac JA
austicke JA
mrfan JA
TomTi89 NEIN
Dake JA
Likeless NEIN

Liberal policy enacted. Liberals 3, Fascists 2.

Round 6.1
President: Likeless
Chancellor: TomTi89

EdSimons NEIN
GaiusJC JA
njmac NEIN
austicke JA
mrfan NEIN
TomTi89 JA
Dake NEIN
Likeless JA

Round 6.2
President: EdSimons
Chancellor: austicke

EdSimons JA
GaiusJC JA
njmac JA
austicke JA
mrfan JA
TomTi89 JA
Dake JA
Likeless NEIN

Fascist policy enacted. Liberals 3, Fascists 3.

Round 7.1 (special election)
President: mrfan
Chancellor: Dake

EdSimons JA
GaiusJC NEIN
njmac JA
austicke JA
mrfan JA
TomTi89 JA
Dake JA
Likeless JA

Fascist policy enacted. Liberals 3, Fascists 4.
President mrfan eliminates EdSimons.

Round 8.1
President: GaiusJC
Chancellor: TomTi89

EdSimons
GaiusJC JA
njmac JA
austicke NEIN
mrfan JA
TomTi89 JA
Dake NEIN
Likeless JA

Fascist policy enacted. Liberals 3, Fascists 5.
President GaiusJC eliminates Dake.

Round 9.1
President: njmac
Chancellor: Likeless

EdSimons
GaiusJC NEIN
njmac NEIN
austicke NEIN
mrfan NEIN
TomTi89 JA
Dake
Likeless NEIN
 
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Sharon Douglas
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I'd like to play
 
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Richard Skinner
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I respond positively! Thanks David.
 
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David Goldfarb
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Okay, a 9-player game. So there will be three Fascists, Hitler will not know who the Fascists are, and all Fascist policies will have a power.

Here's the randomized player order:

njmac
GaiusJC
EdSimons
mrfan
TomTi89
pratchettfan777
Likeless
Dake
austicke

Messages are going out so that people will know who they are. The Presidential candidate for round 1.1 is njmac, who (once he's gotten his role) should select a Chancellor.
 
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Alec Usticke
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David Goldfarb wrote:
The Presidential candidate for round 1.1 is njmac, who (once he's gotten his role) should select a Chancellor.

She.
 
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Sharon Douglas
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hmmm...the first pick is always rough! I'll select TomTi89 as Chancellor.
 
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Sharon Douglas
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Yep. Thanks, Alec.
-Sharon
 
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Oops. Sorry.

Anyway, voting time. njmac (or would you prefer Sharon?) for President, Tom for Chancellor.

VOTE! Voting links: JA/NEIN
 
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David Goldfarb
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Something I am importing from the BSG games is the concept of the conditional order, or CO. Whenever we're having an election, I will ask the President to tell me what she will pass if she has a choice, and the Chancellor likewise. This lets us speed up the legislative session and save time.

So, njmac: what will you pass if you draw FFL? FLL? (Answer via geekmail!)
TomTi89: what will you enact if you are passed FL? (Geekmail!)
 
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Sharon Douglas
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Sharon is fine (either one works though!)
 
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Doctor Tom
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I'm looking forward to this game as it will be different.
In the last two games I was a Fascist. Once I was even Hitler.
Now I'm a Liberal.
Hopefully other Liberals [at least if I've played with them before] will be able to recognise that.
 
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I've been voting Ja to the first proposal each time, so I'll continue that here, especially as I'm part of it.
 
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Alec Usticke
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TomTi89 wrote:
Now I'm a Liberal.

I have full confidence that no one would ever lie about that.
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