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Subject: USE2 Rulebook Query rss

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Salvatore Vasta
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Hi

GMT has given the OK to lengthen the USE 2nd edition (USE2) rulebook for the primary purpose of adding images to some of the examples.

I am curious which examples you feel would benefit from an image.

I am also wondering if there is a rule that does not have an example, but you feel would benefit from having one.

Based on the response level, I'll use this as an unofficial poll.

Sal
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Naval supply checks, hands down. I feel like a good example areas that covers most of the points of consideration would be the Red Sea/Eastern Med region since it contains land, ports, and off-map boxes.

Been playing a campaign game for about a year now (off and on) and naval supply rules are still tripping us up.
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Timo Kellomäki
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It's been a couple of years since my learning phase, but I don't think I felt the rules were missing examples. Maybe more high level overviews, explaining important rule subsystem interactions, and overall "whys" instead of just "hows" (example, 1.5 sorties: doesn't mention combat penalties, IMO it could hint at the fact that you want to keep your units in as good a condition as possible, and how the penalty allows a side to achieve air superiority).

I vaguely recall the most confusing part for me was understanding the system of politics as a whole: appeasement, n/s pact, moscow treaty, policy evaluation, and the semi-related events and counters like west/east invaded or setting up the factories lost markers. Unless I'm mistaken, the whole system is not explained in a single place so you need to understand many rules in isolation to see the big picture.

And yes, the naval missions, supply, etc.

BTW, if you haven't done that already, it may be a good idea to glance through the rules questions here and find recurring themes.
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All facets of naval movement/supply sequences.
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Tristan Tempest
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Great news Sal!

I think the examples in the following rules would benefit from one image per rule around the following areas:

1.3.3 Lake Peipus and the Gulf of Finland;
3.3 Paris, with units;
4.2.3.1 Paris, with other units;
5.2.1 Sea Zone 22, with units;
6.2.5.2 The North Sea, with units and an alternate flight path via hexes 1914 and 1920;
6.3.2.6 Tunis, Malta, and Taranto, with units;
7.4.2 Konigsberg and Lodz, with unit;
7.4.3 Benghazi, with units.

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Daemou wrote:

I vaguely recall the most confusing part for me was understanding the system of politics as a whole: appeasement, n/s pact, moscow treaty, policy evaluation, and the semi-related events and counters like west/east invaded or setting up the factories lost markers. Unless I'm mistaken, the whole system is not explained in a single place so you need to understand many rules in isolation to see the big picture.


+1

(i love this game )
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Salvatore,

Related to this, do you happen to know if GMT will be selling components from the 2nd edition?

My understanding is that the new printing will just have the most current errata and fixed player aids. Meaning all that is different in the 2nd edition is that the rulebook has all errata included. I would love to be able to purchase just those for my existing 1st Edition copy.

Thank you.
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Salvatore Vasta
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srd5090 wrote:
Related to this, do you happen to know if GMT will be selling components from the 2nd edition?


I don't know if GMT will be doing this. You may want to email them directly.

The 2nd edition may have a map with a slightly revised Scandinavia area. However, the changes there will be mainly cosmetic and not affect game play. GMT is going to sell mounted maps separately. So if you want to have the 2nd ed map without buying the whole game, you can pre-order the mounted map.

Sal
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