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Dane P
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I'm going to make the plunge and buy this title, without question now.

I am looking for any advice people have on where to purchase it, and when. I have heard that a new printing is upcoming, but I have no information on it.

I could purchase it at amazon or e-bay, new, but I have heard that many (many!) of the first printing came with a damaged/torn card (that was significantly important to play).

Any advice you may have on shopping for this game would be appreciated. I am in the US.
 
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I emailed Stronghold and they're saying it should be out by the end of January. There's no card problem, but the insert will definitely be stronger!
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VolleyGame wrote:
but the insert will definitely be stronger!


Well, the only way it could be weaker is if it shipped pre-soaked. Seriously though, inserts go right in the trash for me.
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Dane P
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So how big of an impact is this insert issue? Does it affect enjoyment of the game/gameplay?
 
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Heliodorus04 wrote:
So how big of an impact is this insert issue? Does it affect enjoyment of the game/gameplay?


Not in any way at all. It has nothing to do with gameplay and anyone that lets it affect their enjoyment of this game is an idiot. Strong words, but it's true. It's a cheap bit of card that does nothing,chuck it out and stick everything in baggies. People make such a big deal about this and it's totally irrelevant. The game is amazing, the components you play with are fine. Just enjoy the game.
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PeterM2158 wrote:
Heliodorus04 wrote:
So how big of an impact is this insert issue? Does it affect enjoyment of the game/gameplay?


Not in any way at all. It has nothing to do with gameplay and anyone that lets it affect their enjoyment of this game is an idiot. Strong words, but it's true. It's a cheap bit of card that does nothing,chuck it out and stick everything in baggies. People make such a big deal about this and it's totally irrelevant. The game is amazing, the components you play with are fine. Just enjoy the game.


Ditto!

PS - There's already talk of an expansion in 2017 and 2018. Can't wait!
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Two words...insta buy.
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PeterM2158 wrote:
Heliodorus04 wrote:
So how big of an impact is this insert issue? Does it affect enjoyment of the game/gameplay?


Not in any way at all. It has nothing to do with gameplay and anyone that lets it affect their enjoyment of this game is an idiot. Strong words, but it's true. It's a cheap bit of card that does nothing,chuck it out and stick everything in baggies. People make such a big deal about this and it's totally irrelevant. The game is amazing, the components you play with are fine. Just enjoy the game.

A quick add on to this. The insert is very basic, it's only purpose is to hold the board and rule book above the rest of the components, so you have to come up with your own way to store all the bits anyways, likely baggies, even if the insert was in 100% perfect condition.
I think the only other thing changing in the new print is an update to the rulebook to clarify a few things (specifically unlimited actions/turns per generation).
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Berentski wrote:
PeterM2158 wrote:
Heliodorus04 wrote:
So how big of an impact is this insert issue? Does it affect enjoyment of the game/gameplay?


Not in any way at all. It has nothing to do with gameplay and anyone that lets it affect their enjoyment of this game is an idiot. Strong words, but it's true. It's a cheap bit of card that does nothing,chuck it out and stick everything in baggies. People make such a big deal about this and it's totally irrelevant. The game is amazing, the components you play with are fine. Just enjoy the game.


Ditto!

PS - There's already talk of an expansion in 2017 and 2018. Can't wait!


!?!?!?!?! Now if there was some copies available, I'd be on the bandwagon.

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Insert totally irrelevant. Get this excellent game from anywhere if you can! (I got it from a nice shop in Poland)
 
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Heliodorus04 wrote:
I'm going to make the plunge and buy this title, without question now.

I am looking for any advice people have on where to purchase it, and when. I have heard that a new printing is upcoming, but I have no information on it.

I could purchase it at amazon or e-bay, new, but I have heard that many (many!) of the first printing came with a damaged/torn card (that was significantly important to play).

Any advice you may have on shopping for this game would be appreciated. I am in the US.


From my point of view, there is no need to wait.

Even if you pay $100 for a copy from Amazon, you should be getting enough enjoyment out of a few plays to fully justify the cost. If you can get those plays now, it seems to me worth the added cost.

It seems like none of the changes in the next run will likely change your enjoyment of the game, so there is little/no value in waiting for game quality.

I have not heard "many!" problems with the playing cards. There are some, but not a lot from my observations, and to the extent there may be problems that is unlikely to change much in the next batch.

The exception to the above is the insert, which may be card material you are reading about ripping. While most people won't care about the insert at all, some do. I generally like to use functional inserts, but easily shrugged off the ripping in my copy - I was happy to have found a copy to play! I wouldn't want to miss out on two months of play waiting for a different version.

As to the function of the insert, it is not used in game play at all. Part of my gaming experience, however, is setup and clean-up of the game. Some of us get enjoyment out of small details like printed art in the box. A place to put the board is certainly a small convenience, and for me would make for a slightly more pleasant experience. In this case, the added value to me is very small, so I'm pleased to be enjoying the game now, but I would not begrudge anyone their personal take on the pleasure of a small detail.

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Stronghold has said that the new insert will line the box only. It will not support the board or other components in any way.
 
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