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Andrea Sbragia
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I report this user abusing bgg and mining the community with a viral spread of 1 ratings
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Bot. Definitely bot.
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Fire this over to:

https://boardgamegeek.com/thread/821150/naughty-list

They'll nuke it.
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Attempts to manipulate ratings through the use of multiple accounts is prohibited.

Otherwise, ANY person is absolutely allowed to give ANY game ANY rating for ANY reason.
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wrote:
Attempts to manipulate ratings through the use of multiple accounts is prohibited.

Otherwise, ANY person is absolutely allowed to give ANY game ANY rating for ANY reason.


Yes, that's why i am taking about abusing a right
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How is it abuse and why does it matter?

PS accusations of trolling are actually against site rules...
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Report it to the admins. They should be able to tell if the "1" ratings appeared at an inhumanly fast pace and take the appropriate action.
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col_w wrote:
How is it abuse and why does it matter?

PS accusations of trolling are actually against site rules...


if a memeber has the right to have an opinion, so giving ANY ratings to ANY game, it is true that this principle is based on a perception of that member on what he/she thinks about a game; a product, and this is fair and i like it.

However if a member rates "1" in an average of 3 hours or so.... something like 2000 games i should be prone to think that this member is just trying to lower the ratings of some other products without a real perception of that product; so that member is abusing a letimate right given by the admins.
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Adraeth Montecuccoli wrote:
I report this user abusing bgg and mining the community with a viral spread of 1 ratings

So, it is almost a week since the previous ratings thread..

Anyone can rate any game with any value they like decided by any method they like as long as they do that with a single account only.

End of story.

(Accusing a user of being a troll is also forbidden by the user agreement and is subject to suspension.)
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Indeed i am asking not accusing, if this user is a bot or is a troll, i even reported it to Admins, for, again i think that a code of conduct should be used, but not abused.

I just do not know if we have a bot rating or we have a member who just dislike quite everything on BGG rating "1" the 90% of the games, so, i might argue he/she dislikes boardgames .... so what is the matter to be a member of a boardgame community after all?


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Adraeth Montecuccoli wrote:

I just do not know if we have a bot rating or we have a member who just dislike quite everything on BGG rating "1" the 90% of the games, so, i might argue he/she dislikes boardgames .... so what is the matter to be a member of a boardgame community after all?


Given that there are at least a couple of thousand games in here you won't catch me dead playing I don't see the issue here. I just can't be bothered to rate them, but to me they're also "1"''s

But this guy decided to go through the trouble and mark them with the suggested rating for "won't catch me dead playing" - which is "1" - to make it easy for him to see which games he already checked out and dismissed as garbage and which games he didn't. That is perfectly legit. Even if he used a script to mark them as such based on a personal database/file.


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Thanks Eddy this might make sense; it is a reason, which i may disagree about but it should be a reason.

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My prototype got hit by him/her yesterday, as well as the prototype listings of several other game designers that I know. It hurts when you have only two ratings as the "1" has a huge impact on us. I guess the only positive is that if he/she is hitting everyone then it all evens out, and ultimately as games get more ratings, this hit will be minimized. Additionally, if we continue to publicly name this person, more will be aware of his/her behavior.

Just a huge bummer that people in this community are being negatively impacted by this person. We should be supporting each other, not bringing each other down.
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motljus wrote:
https://boardgamegeek.com/user/Smjj

Obvious bot with only directive to skew the BGG rating system in favour of his own top 104 games, by giving these "10":s and 6665(!) other top ranked games "1":s.


to quote a recent (11/26) Geekmail from Octavian

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Thanks for pointing this out. In this case it is best to simply ignore them. We do not police how people use our ratings system. Anyone can give any game any rating for any reason. We rely on our ranking algorithm to detect and discount insincere ratings. A handful of insincere or otherwise atypical ratings will have no practical impact on a game's ranking in the database
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Smjj has 5 games with the status 'Want To Play' that they also rate as "1."

This smacks of masochism surely ("this game is so bad, I don't consider it a game. But curiously, I still want to play it.")
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caracfergus wrote:
Smjj has 5 games with the status 'Want To Play' that they also rate as "1."

This smacks of masochism surely ("this game is so bad, I don't consider it a game. But curiously, I still want to play it.")

I can think of some games that are so bad I wouldn't really consider them games, but I might still want to play them. A lottery that skews heavily toward my win? Several hypothetical activities I won't detail that involve nudity?
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We are reaching out to Smjj and we will base our next step on his response.
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