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It'd be great to have that long out of print "free" expansion, Extra Treasures, available too...
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space monkey mafia wrote:
It'd be great to have that long out of print "free" expansion, Extra Treasures, available too...


Does it come with any other cards? From the images, I don't think it does. It seems to just be wood tiles. As such, adding cards would add a decent bit of extra complexity to the project. Gotta specify and QC card thickness, core, print quality, make sure they match the rest of the treasures, etc. If it was already a deck of cards and they were just adding three more, it'd be a lot easier.
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space monkey mafia wrote:
It'd be great to have that long out of print "free" expansion, Extra Treasures, available too...


Does it come with any other cards? From the images, I don't think it does. It seems to just be wood tiles. As such, adding cards would add a decent bit of extra complexity to the project. Gotta specify and QC card thickness, core, print quality, make sure they match the rest of the treasures, etc. If it was already a deck of cards and they were just adding three more, it'd be a lot easier.


100% agree but still worth considering if it is early enough in the production cycle.
 
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Agreed!! I've been playing Jamaica a lot lately on game night. I would love to add the Extra treasures to the mix. They don't seem to be available anywhere.
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Do you know that there are Jamaica Extra-treasures to print? Getting them on a linen textured paper makes them fairy close to the originals.
 
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Do you know that there are Jamaica Extra-treasures to print? Getting them on a linen textured paper makes them fairy close to the originals.


I don't think "fairly close" would be anywhere near close enough, given how much scrutiny is on the treasure cards. You'd have to reprint the whole deck or sleeve them (in which case you don't even need to get that close).
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space monkey mafia wrote:
It'd be great to have that long out of print "free" expansion, Extra Treasures, available too...
It was never an expansion. It was a promo which I believe I asked the publisher about several years ago and they said it was just a promo that was printed to be given out at Essen maybe ... 6+ years ago now? I mean, it'd be great if they reprinted them and included them in a different game, it'd be great if they included a whole copy of Jamaica with this game, too. *shrugs*


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Quibbling over the diference between "free expansion" and "promo"?!

And 3 cards plus a rules sheet is in no way equivalent to a full copy of the base game.
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phildinius wrote:
space monkey mafia wrote:
It'd be great to have that long out of print "free" expansion, Extra Treasures, available too...
It was never an expansion. It was a promo which I believe I asked the publisher about several years ago and they said it was just a promo that was printed to be given out at Essen maybe ... 6+ years ago now? I mean, it'd be great if they reprinted them and included them in a different game, it'd be great if they included a whole copy of Jamaica with this game, too. *shrugs*


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Quibbling over the diference between "free expansion" and "promo"?!

And 3 cards plus a rules sheet is in no way equivalent to a full copy of the base game.


Probably no surprise here but, I agree!

phildinius, at no point did cost come into the request. I would assume that if the publisher added content, the price of the product would go up as well. I mentioned "free" only to refer to the fact that the "expansion" (which is what it is a listed as on this site, promo or not) was initially a give-a-way.

If you don't want it, that's totally fine. I brought this up because the cards are hard to find or expensive in the secondary market. Releasing a new expansion might be a good opportunity to revisit printing that Spiel promotion as well.
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slprince wrote:
Do you know that there are Jamaica Extra-treasures to print? Getting them on a linen textured paper makes them fairy close to the originals.


For this to really work, I'd want the entire set available to print so that all the cards are consistent. Otherwise I'd need to do as Jason suggested and sleeve all the cards. At this point, that is not something I'm interested in pursuing.

At the end of the day, the publisher could (and likely will) ignore this request and I'm no worse off than I was before starting the thread.
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jepmn wrote:
I don't think "fairly close" would be anywhere near close enough, given how much scrutiny is on the treasure cards.


Very well. devil I challenge you to scrutinize the cards:


3 of them are the real Extra Treasures promo cards, 3 are the DIY printed version of Extra Treasures, and the rest are part of the treasure deck from the base game.

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Gotcha! The 3 cards in the top row with the thinner border are not the DIY cards! Ironically, those are the real Extra Treasures promos.



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For this to really work, I'd want the entire set available to print so that all the cards are consistent.


Yes, there are definitely some inconsistencies in the cards (mostly in texture). However, given that the draw stack only shows one card at a time, and that the Extra Treasures are placed face up once drawn, I choose to ignore it. After all, it's a light, family style game and the cards add more fun even if they don't match.
 
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slprince wrote:
jepmn wrote:
I don't think "fairly close" would be anywhere near close enough, given how much scrutiny is on the treasure cards.


Very well. devil I challenge you to scrutinize the cards:


You can't be serious. You want people to try to guess based off a grainy 600x800 jpeg made in terrible lighting?

And yes, your cards have problems with that thin border. After a couple of plays with your copies, I'd know exactly which ones were the ETs.

All you've proven is that the previous ET printing was terrible.

As Christian said, the only real solution for these kinds of things is to reprint the whole deck (and not make any mistakes in so doing).
 
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jepmn wrote:
slprince wrote:
jepmn wrote:
I don't think "fairly close" would be anywhere near close enough, given how much scrutiny is on the treasure cards.


Very well. devil I challenge you to scrutinize the cards:


You can't be serious. You want people to try to guess based off a grainy 600x800 jpeg made in terrible lighting?

And yes, your cards have problems with that thin border. After a couple of plays with your copies, I'd know exactly which ones were the ETs.

All you've proven is that the previous ET printing was terrible.

As Christian said, the only real solution for these kinds of things is to reprint the whole deck (and not make any mistakes in so doing).


Yikes! It sounds like you're a much more serious Jamaica player than I am (we only play for fun.) You'd better not buy The Crew expansion; it looks like there are a few of treasure cards in there too. I suspect they will not meet with your expectations.
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slprince wrote:
Yikes! It sounds like you're a much more serious Jamaica player than I am (we only play for fun.) You'd better not buy The Crew expansion; it looks like there are a few of treasure cards in there too. I suspect they will not meet with your expectations.


It's actually quite possible to both play things for fun and be concerned about components sticking out like a sore thumb. Do you think I'm playing for the cash aware for the Jamaica World Championships or something? Perhaps you think I use real gold doubloons...
 
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slprince wrote:
jepmn wrote:
I don't think "fairly close" would be anywhere near close enough, given how much scrutiny is on the treasure cards.


Very well. devil I challenge you to scrutinize the cards:


3 of them are the real Extra Treasures promo cards, 3 are the DIY printed version of Extra Treasures, and the rest are part of the treasure deck from the base game.

Spoiler (click to reveal)
Gotcha! The 3 cards in the top row with the thinner border are not the DIY cards! Ironically, those are the real Extra Treasures promos.




Are the 3 'DIY printed versions of Extra Treasures' on the top row in positions 2, 3, and 4 if we count left to right and top to bottom?
 
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It occurs to me that I should point out that I've logged 15 games of Jamaica. This is more than I've played any other modern boardgame. It's not because I'm Super Serious about Jamaica. It's definitely not my #1 favorite game. But it is a really good game. It's one of the few games I like to play with six people. In fact, I like to play it even MORE with six people than with three or four. And it's great for people who haven't played a single board game since childhood Monopoly.

As such, inconsistent cards will be noticed, by me if no one else. So basically I have a leg up on them (even more than usual, if they're new gamers). And that's kind of a big deal when avoiding curses is such a big factor in the game. That's three cards that I know have zero downside to them.
 
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...I see some new cards added to the advanced prototype image... if they're already printing a few new cards...
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syko42 wrote:
slprince wrote:
jepmn wrote:
I don't think "fairly close" would be anywhere near close enough, given how much scrutiny is on the treasure cards.


Very well. devil I challenge you to scrutinize the cards:


3 of them are the real Extra Treasures promo cards, 3 are the DIY printed version of Extra Treasures, and the rest are part of the treasure deck from the base game.

Spoiler (click to reveal)
Gotcha! The 3 cards in the top row with the thinner border are not the DIY cards! Ironically, those are the real Extra Treasures promos.




Are the 3 'DIY printed versions of Extra Treasures' on the top row in positions 2, 3, and 4 if we count left to right and top to bottom?


White border is thinner
 
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You could just draw them off the bottom of the deck (instead of the top). Or put them in an envelope (like the old Clue games)
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Can't wait for this expansion. Any other recent news?
 
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I will also chime in. If the producer is reading, I am also very interested in the 3 cards promo that is currently impossible to get. I really doubt that if printing cards already, 3 more would effect the price. Please include, would move me from interested in expansion, to "for sure buying". Thanks.
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Can't wait for this expansion. Any other recent news?


Anyone knows when the expansion will be available?
 
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I think I paid almost $30 for the THREE Extra Treasure Cards.

It hurt, but it's a nice little addition to the game.
 
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I think I paid almost $30 for the THREE Extra Treasure Cards.

It hurt, but it's a nice little addition to the game.


Its ridiculous, 10$ per card.
 
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