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A lot of us have that guilty pleasure...that one topic that although we have 3 or 4 games covering it we will still buy another if it looks even remotely decent.

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1) What is that topic for you?
2) Why?
3) What games do you own covering it?
4) If you could onl recommend one to someone without a game on the topic,which would it be ?
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Neat topic, okay here goes:

1) Eastern Front - Pretty much any scale from tactical to theatre wide.

2) It's where the war was won and lost. The sheer scale of the geography and fighting was absolutely astounding. The consequences of defeat were obliteration.

3) Barbarossa Deluxe, Proud Monster Deluxe, Russian Front, Trial of Strength, Case Blue, Guderian's Blitzkrieg II, Baltic Gap, Kiev to Rostov, Army Group South, Crimea, Old School Tactical, Conflict of Heroes, Fall Blau, Army Group South...

4) I'd recommend any of them, though it would really depend on the amount of complexity and size of the game they were looking for.

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I would say either Eastern Front at a theatre level or WW2 tactical combat. I won't buy everything that comes down the pipeline...but I'll seriously consider it.

To add to the list:

2) Eastern Front because it's where WW2 was won and lost, and is the area where the qualities that we associate with the conflict--armor, airpower, encirclements, etc. all happened.

Tactical games because they are more likely to evoke the visceral feel of combat, which on some level strikes me as what we are looking for out of wargames.

3) Actually I've whittled down my EF collection to these:
Eastfront
The Russian Campaign
Russian Front
No Retreat!

For tactical, which I'll consider platoon level or below, I've got the following-
Band of Brothers
Squad Leader
ASL
Conflict of Heroes
Fighting Formations
Fields of Fire
Up Front
Frontline D-Day
Multiple area-impulse games at this scale.

4) Recommendations?
For Eastern Front, it would be Eastfront. For tactical, it would be Up Front, Band of Brothers and Fields of Fire.
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gamesontables wrote:
1) What is that topic for you?
2) Why?
3) What games do you own covering it?
4) If you could onl recommend one to someone without a game on the topic,which would it be ?


(1) Once again, the Russian Front, WWII

(2) The sheer scope and the decisive front -- 80% of German military casualties incurred there (95% if we consider June 1941 onwards)

(3) Probably not a complete listing, but you get the idea ...
A VICTORY DENIED
A VICTORY LOST
BARBAROSSA: CRIMEA
BARBAROSSA: KIEV TO ROSTOV
BATTLE FOR GERMANY
BATTLE FOR MOSCOW
CONFLICT OF HEROES
DARK CRUSADE
DESTRUCTION OF ARMY GROUP CENTER
HITLER'S WAR
HOLDFAST: RUSSIA
KRIEG
NO RETREAT: THE RUSSIAN FRONT
PANZERBLITZ
PANZERGRUPPE GUDERIAN
STURM NACH OSTEN
VICTORY ROADS
WWII: BARBAROSSA TO BERLIN
WAR IN EUROPE

(4) NO RETREAT: THE RUSSIAN FRONT-- Very approachable and playable in two sittings




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Waterloo, Battle of the Little Big Horn, tactical Vietnam, Hastings, AWI battles, The Alamo, Rorke's Drift/Zulu War, strategic thermonuclear war, Battle for Berlin ('45), Battle of the Bulge (though I'm weaning myself of this last, and likely W'loo as well after the 200th Anniversary flood of Waterloo games).

Oh, forgot the "Why" . . . mostly, I suppose, it's about the drama of desperate situations, or the puzzle of "what happened/what could have happened," with a dash of asymmetrical warfare thrown in.
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1. Hello my name is James and I too am addicted to Eastern Front WWII Games.

2. The size, intensity, and total nature of the conflict.

3. I don't own too many games, but of the few I own:
Barbarossa: Crimea
Ring of Fire
HoldFast: Barbarossa
Objective: Kiev
Objective: Moscow
No Retreat: The Russian Front
Storm Over Stalingrad

4. No Retreat. It is quite literally the game that got me into wargaming (yes, I am a young guy).
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1. Another Waterloo fan.

2. I've always been fascinated by Napoleon and, of all the battles in history, this is probably the one I'm most familiar with - and it is possible to visit the site which is still in a great state of preservation.

3. If we include the campaign as well as the battle:
Alexander at Waterloo
Beyond Waterloo
Commands & Colors: Napoleonics I'm assuming this has a Waterloo scenario - I've yet to open it
The Emperor Returns
Hougoumont
Incredible Courage 100 Days: Quatre Bras
Incredible Courage 100 Days: Ligny
Incredible Courage 100 Days - Waterloo
L'Armée du Nord
The Last Days of the Grande Armee
Le Retour de l'Empereur
La Bataille de Ligny
La Bataille de Mont Saint Jean
Napoleon: The Waterloo Campaign, 1815
Napoleon at Waterloo
Napoleon at Waterloo Advanced Game Expansion Kit
Napoleon's Last Battles
Ney vs. Wellington
La Bataille des Quatre Bras
W1815
Waterloo
Waterloo 20
Waterloo 200
La Bataille de Wavre
Wellington's Victory: Battle of Waterloo

That really is too many, isn't it.

4. Currently playing Grognard's Incredible Courage 100 Days series (quatre Bras is the specific game) and really enjoying it.
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Strategic WWII games is the big one for me. High drama. Fast out of the gate. Punishing response. Blitzes. Tanks. Subs. Politics. Production. Invasions. Snow. Sneak attacks. Carrier Battles.

WWII: ETO
Third Reich
ETO/PTO
World in Flames
Axis Empires: TK/DS
Unconditional Surrender
Empire of the Sun
Barbarossa to Berlin
Supreme Commander
Hitler's War
Blitz
Churchill
Triumph and Tragedy
Axis and Allies
War in Europe
The Big One
Blitzkrieg General
Axis and Allies
Fire in the Sky
USN

Recommend one? I would have to go with World in Flames for the sheer scope and epicnicity (I just made up that word). Unconditional surrender gets the vote for most historic. Axis Empires for the one I would keep ('cuz I haven't explored it fully...)
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In my game group we ask all newcomers this question:

How many games on the Battle of the Bulge should a wargamer own?

The correct answer of course is: All of them!
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U-Boats and really anything to do with submarines.

My Grandfather was a Merchant Marine Captain and survived several runs to Murmansk and Archangel so anything to do with the Atlantic war is right up my alley. Anything that gives Operation Drumbeat a treatment is a must order for me.

I only own U-Boat leader in the U-Boat category, but I also have They Come Unseen and Silent War. Still trying to get a copy of Silent Victory, The Hunted, and have my pre-order in for The Hunters.

U-Boat leader is a really fun game. I enjoy it a lot. I have heard really good things about Silent Victory so I'm excited to try it.
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1. WWII North Africa.
2. I like the fact that it is a limited region and very amenable to operational treatment. Some of the most interesting wargame designs have been done on this topic.
3. Battle for North Africa (GMT); Blood and Sand; Campaign for North Africa; D.A.K. (SimCan); DAK (Gamers); Desert Fox; Desert Fox Deluxe; Desert War:Egypt; Gazala:1942; Gazala Line:1942; The Legend Begins; The Mediterranean; PanzerArmee Afrika; Rommel's War; Slouch Hats and Eggshells; Trail of the Fox; Triumph and Fall of the Desert Fox; Triumphant Fox; Tunisia.

4. This is difficult for me. My favorite of these games is Desert Fox Deluxe. Desert Fox was long my favorite, and I really like the new one as it covers the whole war from the Italian invasion of Egypt through the end in Tunisia.

But for someone who has never had a game on the topic I think I would recommend The Legend Begins (the deluxe third edition). The design is really excellent for the desert war, all the subsystems depict operations effectively, and meld together very well. And the rules are written very well...easy to grasp and not a lot of errata.
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I don't really care too much about topic, I care about the game itself, but maybe WWII squad level is somewhat irresistible to me. I have modules from ASL (both full ASL and starter kit), Band of Brothers, Combat Commander, Conflict of Heroes and Lock'n Load. If another major system shows up and becomes insanely popular, it sure would be tempting to have at least one module, just to see how that system works too. My recommendation for someone who doesn't own a WWII squad level game is ASL (or ASL starter kit if you don't have the time).
 
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TedW wrote:
Strategic WWII games is the big one for me.


Yeah, this for me, too.
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Calxx55 wrote:

In my game group we ask all newcomers this question:

How many games on the Battle of the Bulge should a wargamer own?

The correct answer of course is: All of them!


I own NONE of them... I've never even PLAYED a Battle of the Bulge game.
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Napoleonic grand tactical.

WW2 Tactical ... tempted to order OST.
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1) What is that topic for you?

The Peloponnesian War, though I would not call it an over-gamed topic.

2) Why?

Probably my favorite read and discussion during my Bachelor's in History was on Thucydides' History of the Peloponnesian War.

3) What games do you own covering it?

Epic of the Peloponnesian War
Hellenes: Campaigns of the Peloponnesian War
Perikles
Polis: Fight for the Hegemony
Sphactérie: 425 av. J.-C.
Syracuse (415/413 av. J.-C.)

and I will be owning Pericles: The Peloponnesian Wars, once Hermann is done with it.

And that is a lot for me on any given topic (except WWII due to its breadth; though even there my only excessive focus is on North Africa where I have 3 games).

4) If you could only recommend one to someone without a game on the topic,which would it be ?

I would recommend Polis (Hellenes if they want something more wargamey).
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Several topics:

A. Battle of the Bulge!

Why? It's just such a classic battle situation: an initially superior force which has to achieve a geographic objective before enemy reinforcements, arriving pell-mell from three sides, can stop it.

Games:
The Battle of the Bulge
Battle of the Bulge
Battle of the Bulge
Attack in the Ardennes
Battles for the Ardennes
Ardennes
Tigers in the Mist
Ardennes '44
FAB: The Bulge
Designer Edition Bitter Woods
Iron Tide: Panzers in the Ardennes
Wacht Am Rhein
Enemy Action: Ardennes
Last Blitzkrieg
Wave of Terror
Bastogne: Screaming Eagles under Siege
Battles of the Bulge: Celles
Paul Koenig's The Bulge: 6th Panzer Army
Panzer Grenadier: Elsenborn Ridge
Panzer Grenadier: Battle of the Bulge
Bloody 110

Recommend one? If you are new to wargaming: The Battle of the Bulge. If you're experienced in wargaming and want a 1-day hex-and-counter game: Ardennes '44. If you want a battalion-level monster: Last Blitzkrieg. If you want a really good area-and-block game (rather than hex-and-counter): FAB: The Bulge. If you want a platoon level game: Panzer Grenadier: Elsenborn Ridge or Bloody 110. If you want a really good short game covering part of the battle: Battles of the Bulge: Celles. If you want a true solo game (you against a 'system', take either side): Enemy Action: Ardennes. If you simply want what is arguably the best game on the battle: Ardennes '44.


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Well, I CAN resist, but:

Gettysburg -- enough already
Operation Market Garden -- I actually P500'd Holland '44: Operation Market-Gardenon GMT recently.

Edit: Okay, to stay on topic,

1. Napoleonic Era, especially the 1813 campaign.

2. I read Chandler's Campaigns of Napoleon when I was 16 and got hooked on the maps.

3. General --
Napoleon: The Waterloo Campaign, 1815
Napoleon's Triumph
Toulon, 1793
Bonaparte at Marengo
La Bataille d'Orthez
Marengo: Napoleon in Italy, 14 June 1800
Jena 20

1813 --
Napoleon at Leipzig (fifth edition)
The relevant Nap20 titles from VPG
La Bataille de Lützen
The Struggle of Nations (no longer owned).

4. I'd recommend the Columbia Game for an excellent intro to the genre. I'd recommend Napoleon's Triumph because it reminds me of the maps in Chandler's book.
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WW2 - Western Desert
narodynot wrote:


But for someone who has never had a game on the topic I think I would recommend The Legend Begins (the deluxe third edition). The design is really excellent for the desert war, all the subsystems depict operations effectively, and meld together very well. And the rules are written very well...easy to grasp and not a lot of errata.


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1. East Front of WWII by a long shot.

2. I've always been fascinated by land warfare and tanks in particular. All those images of boldly driving spearheads and Guderian racing around in his command vehicle make my head spin wow The scale and impact on the war overall has always been a big pull. And trying to do better than the Germans hasn't hurt either

3.
The Barbarossa Campaign
The Russian Campaign (fourth edition)
Russian Front
T3 System / Schwerpunkt Series (all of them)
No Retreat! The Russian Front
Russia Besieged
Four Roads to Moscow
Zhukov’s War: The Decisive Middle Phase of the Eastern Front, July 1942 – July 1943
Turning Point: Stalingrad
The Hell of Stalingrad
48th Panzer Korps
The Arduous Beginning
Objective: Kiev
Target: Leningrad
Panzers East Solitaire
Battle for Moscow (second edition)
Four Battles of Army Group South
PanzerBlitz
And I've preorderd
Absolute War! - The Attack on Russia 1941-44

4. I would say either No Retreat: Russian Front if they have someone to play with on a regular basis. If not, then The Barbarossa Campaign.

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wifwendell wrote:
Calxx55 wrote:

In my game group we ask all newcomers this question:

How many games on the Battle of the Bulge should a wargamer own?

The correct answer of course is: All of them!


I own NONE of them... I've never even PLAYED a Battle of the Bulge game.


That might be a dangerous admission in these here parts. ninja

I've played a few just to CYA myself against the Bulge fanatics devotees.
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Eastfront of course I have at least 30 games on various eastfront topics.
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1) The Russian Front! WW2

2) It's just the "Mother of all Battles". In raw size, scope and violence...

3) Oh boy, too many to list here, seriously! I must almost have them all in my collection bar some precious few.

4) My own design takes on the subject perhaps? I mean, I like this topic so much that I designed games about it! No Retreat! and No Retreat! The Russian Front and Absolute War! - The Attack on Russia 1941-44 (more to come!)
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wifwendell wrote:
Calxx55 wrote:

In my game group we ask all newcomers this question:

How many games on the Battle of the Bulge should a wargamer own?

The correct answer of course is: All of them!


I own NONE of them... I've never even PLAYED a Battle of the Bulge game.


Shun the non-believer!
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I'm on board with most of the WWII suggestions here. I do have a sweet tooth for alternate history games, because I enjoy playing a wargame where I don't know what the outcome is supposed to be (because that's what happened in history).

Pretty much unavailable, but I would recommend the series:

Red Sun Black Cross
Escort Fleet
Return to Europe

for its fairly plausible background (most alt-his games aren't very plausible) and the chrome. The silhouettes for the air unit's, in particular, help the immersion in a way that generic symbols would not.
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