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I have to say I didn't see that one coming:

http://bearingarms.com/jenn-j/2016/11/29/despite-predictions...


I admit I even forgot to stock up on a bit more ammo in the last month or so (too busy at work), but I'm surprised with the increased sales. Probably a combination of post-election celebration and pre-planned buys; it'll be interesting to see what happens next month.



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Maybe it means that Democrats are starting to exercise their 2nd Amendment rights, too?

(Please get proper training, fellas!)
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I hear dildos and vibrators were going at a record pace as well. Hooray America....
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Once every american owns enough guns it will become a quantum singularity and all that will be left is dildo's and vibrators.
 
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Drew1365 wrote:
Maybe it means that Democrats are starting to exercise their 2nd Amendment rights, too? ;)

(Please get proper training, fellas!)


But of course!

I'm not sure about thereabouts, but around here I know the local gun shops give you discounted classroom courses and such.




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remorseless1 wrote:
I hear dildos and vibrators were going at a record pace as well. Hooray America....



Odin bless America!


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I wasn't aware anyone was predicting any retail business sales would be off on Black Friday. I saw a lot of women shoppers in Shooters Supply when I was there. I almost bought a Kahr .380 on sale but I had a case of AP deciding between the CW and the CT models. I stepped away to decide whether I even needed another pocket pistol at all.

Then I found a used Parker P38 guitar for the same money but I didn't buy it either because I decided I should be buying gifts for other people. Darn holiday obligations!

Edit: I misspoke. I was not at Shooters on Black Friday. I was there some day before Black Friday, maybe Tattle Tale Gray Tuesday or something. But there were plenty of women there, most, but not all, accompanied by a man.
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Ferretman wrote:
I have to say I didn't see that one coming:

http://bearingarms.com/jenn-j/2016/11/29/despite-predictions...


I admit I even forgot to stock up on a bit more ammo in the last month or so (too busy at work), but I'm surprised with the increased sales. Probably a combination of post-election celebration and pre-planned buys; it'll be interesting to see what happens next month.
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Yep, new record, barely:

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The FBI processed 185,713 background checks for buyers through its National Instant Criminal Background Check System (NICS.) That was nearly 400 more transactions than the bureau processed on Black Friday 2015, the bureau's Stephen Fischer Jr. told Business Insider.

http://www.businessinsider.com/gun-background-checks-hit-rec...

Not sure what a significance a YOY increase of 0.22% really has.

Are there any states that have expanded the requirement for background checks since last year?
 
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I had a coworker who bought seven AR-15s before the election. When Trump won he decided to give them all away. So Trump got me a free AR (Olympic Arms, made in 1992 by serial number).

True story
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I had a coworker who bought seven AR-15s before the election. When Trump won he decided to give them all away. So Trump got me a free AR (Olympic Arms, made in 1992 by serial number).

True story

who knew ar-15 sales would be such a good measuring stick of right-wing paranoia
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Gun sales go up after an election when there is concern of the new administration banning guns or being unconstitutional and oppressive.

Trump isn't for banning guns...

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Drew1365 wrote:
Maybe it means that Democrats are starting to exercise their 2nd Amendment rights, too?

(Please get proper training, fellas!)

"Proper training" isn't in the constitution, you gun control freak!
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[q="Ferretman"]I have to say I didn't see that one coming:

http://bearingarms.com/jenn-j/2016/11/29/despite-predictions...


I admit I even forgot to stock up on a bit more ammo in the last month or so (too busy at work), but I'm surprised with the increased sales. Probably a combination of post-election celebration and pre-planned buys; it'll be interesting to see what happens next month.
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Yep, new record, barely:

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The FBI processed 185,713 background checks for buyers through its National Instant Criminal Background Check System (NICS.) That was nearly 400 more transactions than the bureau processed on Black Friday 2015, the bureau's Stephen Fischer Jr. told Business Insider.



I'm sorry, are you having trouble with sums?

More this year was more than last year.

Q.E.D.

Sorry it spoiled your narrative--it won't change anything, but I'm sorry for your narrative going awry on you.


odie73 wrote:

Are there any states that have expanded the requirement for background checks since last year?


A reasonable enough question! I hope not but it's always possible.


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All the same people who complained about being broke and needing jobs because of Obama. Maybe they should have used this money for job training in order to adapt to new job markets instead of buying more luxury goods.
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ALL states by law require a gun dealer(any business) to make all gun purchaser's fill out a 4473 before purchasing a firearm. They then submit the information to the FCIS to get a proceed, deny, or delay. After a proceed the sale can go forward. This is the "background check."

Most states you may purchase a firearm PRIVATELY from another private person who resides in the same state with the (unenforceable) restriction of believing the purchaser is legally able to own and purchase a firearm. A private sale CAN include a transfer which uses the above method and costs an additional $15 to $55 dollars. Most people are satisfied with just viewing each other's CCW licenses.

Most firearm gifts fall into the former category.

Firearms training is ABSOLUTELY not in the constitution, which is why we are seeing a rise in constitutional carry vs CCW. Training is just something that responsible people advocate for. Not require. Background checks are not in the constitution either. Imagine if any other "right" had restrictions like this...

Also ARMS are the only difference between a citizen and a slave. Gaining the most efficient current means of self defense also serves the needed use in simple survival:

1. Need to live (violent attack)
2. Need to breath
3. Need shelter (job time comes here)
4. Need water
5. Need food
6. Need shit to do...
7. Need people
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Ferretman wrote:
odie73 wrote:
Ferretman wrote:
I have to say I didn't see that one coming:

http://bearingarms.com/jenn-j/2016/11/29/despite-predictions...


I admit I even forgot to stock up on a bit more ammo in the last month or so (too busy at work), but I'm surprised with the increased sales. Probably a combination of post-election celebration and pre-planned buys; it'll be interesting to see what happens next month.
Ferret

Yep, new record, barely:

Quote:
The FBI processed 185,713 background checks for buyers through its National Instant Criminal Background Check System (NICS.) That was nearly 400 more transactions than the bureau processed on Black Friday 2015, the bureau's Stephen Fischer Jr. told Business Insider.



I'm sorry, are you having trouble with sums?

More this year was more than last year.

Q.E.D.

Since I did not claim anything different you either have a problem with reading comprehension, understanding percentages or both.

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Sorry it spoiled your narrative--it won't change anything, but I'm sorry for your narrative going awry on you.

What was my narrative? Any quotes?

odie73 wrote:

Are there any states that have expanded the requirement for background checks since last year?


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A reasonable enough question! I hope not but it's always possible.
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Yep, and if just one more state expanded background checks your narrative of more people buying guns quickly loses its support. Too bad when sample sizes suddenly change.
 
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There was a proposition that passed in California that will require a background check just for buying ammo and clips.
https://ballotpedia.org/California_Proposition_63,_Backgroun...)
 
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California has some of the most draconian Firearms laws. It feels like that state is chosen to the be the testing grounds for every ill-conceived policy. All those laws yet look at their violent crime rate still...

https://ucr.fbi.gov/crime-in-the-u.s/2012/crime-in-the-u.s.-...
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Nah.

Economy is already improving just by knowing repubs are in charge. All those background checks are generated by pawnshops as owners feel financially secure enough to get their firearms, jewelry, and guitars out of hock.

Source: pulled it out of Obama's ass. Dems are usually good with that source.
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Ferretman wrote:
I have to say I didn't see that one coming:

http://bearingarms.com/jenn-j/2016/11/29/despite-predictions...


I admit I even forgot to stock up on a bit more ammo in the last month or so (too busy at work), but I'm surprised with the increased sales. Probably a combination of post-election celebration and pre-planned buys; it'll be interesting to see what happens next month.



Ferret


As I said before, nothing like Trump being elected and republican control of the house and senate to make liberals understand the real purpose of the 2nd amendment.

I'm averse to guns. Having a gun is a huge risk factor to yourself and your children. Plus I think they are ineffectual against the government.

Or am I just saying that? whistle

Occasionally, i do wonder what happens when a gun victim's relative takes an AR 15 to the NRA headquarters. A tragic irony. No kidding and not hoping for it but it seriously seems to be just a matter of time.

 
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I made a kind of nasty joke before, let me try again.

In a culture of extreme anger and paranoia (not limited to a side, either) gun sales aren't that surprising. ESPECIALLY with the culture of victimization engendered & exploited in the last election.
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Ashgrove wrote:
California has some of the most draconian Firearms laws. It feels like that state is chosen to the be the testing grounds for every ill-conceived policy. All those laws yet look at their violent crime rate still...

https://ucr.fbi.gov/crime-in-the-u.s/2012/crime-in-the-u.s.-...

Not an easily readable chart there. California ranks 17th out of 50 for violent crimes but to be fair Texas is 15th.

http://www.worldatlas.com/articles/the-most-dangerous-states...
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odie73 wrote:
Ferretman wrote:
odie73 wrote:
Ferretman wrote:
I have to say I didn't see that one coming:

http://bearingarms.com/jenn-j/2016/11/29/despite-predictions...


I admit I even forgot to stock up on a bit more ammo in the last month or so (too busy at work), but I'm surprised with the increased sales. Probably a combination of post-election celebration and pre-planned buys; it'll be interesting to see what happens next month.
Ferret

Yep, new record, barely:

Quote:
The FBI processed 185,713 background checks for buyers through its National Instant Criminal Background Check System (NICS.) That was nearly 400 more transactions than the bureau processed on Black Friday 2015, the bureau's Stephen Fischer Jr. told Business Insider.



I'm sorry, are you having trouble with sums?

More this year was more than last year.

Q.E.D.

Since I did not claim anything different you either have a problem with reading comprehension, understanding percentages or both.

Quote:
Sorry it spoiled your narrative--it won't change anything, but I'm sorry for your narrative going awry on you.

What was my narrative? Any quotes?

odie73 wrote:

Are there any states that have expanded the requirement for background checks since last year?


Quote:
A reasonable enough question! I hope not but it's always possible.
Ferret

Yep, and if just one more state expanded background checks your narrative of more people buying guns quickly loses its support. Too bad when sample sizes suddenly change.



I note that you have become immune to facts...ah well, it's typical.

RSP must have taken a harder hit from your lot than I thought.



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