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I guess this is legit news now, at least in Internet-land. Hate that they focused so much on the pinups and that pointless article from Bitch Media from four years ago.

http://www.cnbc.com/2016/11/30/this-board-game-raised-1-mill...
 
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Seems like a reasonable article to me. The controversy can't be ignored in an article for a wider audience, and it gave Poots ample space to defend his position.
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For better or for worse, KD built its name on pinups, and hasn't divorced itself from them in this campaign. They've had ample opportunity since getting big to stop or downplay it, and they haven't.
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Seems like a reasonable article to me. The controversy can't be ignored in an article for a wider audience, and it gave Poots ample space to defend his position.


Oh I definitely appreciate that they reached out to him, and he defended himself well.
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Hmm. I can't ever recall a time actually playing KDM when I would have described the world as either "sexy" or "apocalyptic."
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Eh, I think it was a pretty bad article. It didn't describe the game well and it focused entirely on the controversy and not at all on the game itself.
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Eh, I think it was a pretty bad article. It didn't describe the game well and it focused entirely on the controversy and not at all on the game itself.


That's what newspapers do.

So next time you read an article on a major newspaper about a subject you don't know anything about, just assume that part of it is false or misleading.

That's how it works .
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fighting off death in a sexy, apocalyptic world filled with monsters and pin-up-style art


Quite a program !
 
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Poots quote from article

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"Our pinups are inspired by famous artwork from the 60's and 70's. ...[]"


Anybody can answer about which artwork he is talking about?
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Another fantastical game, Exploding Kittens, raised $8.8 million last year

This line shows she knows noyhing about board games.
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godzilla999666 wrote:
Another fantastical game, Exploding Kittens, raised $8.8 million last year

This line shows she knows noyhing about board games.


I do not think she meant fantastic but rather steeped from imagination and not reality.
 
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Poots quote from article

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"Our pinups are inspired by famous artwork from the 60's and 70's. ...[]"


Anybody can answer about which artwork he is talking about?


If you Google "1950s pin up", I think that's the style he means.
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How exactly/why did Exploding Kittens receive $8.8 million? I played it. It doesn't have much in the box for an $8.8 million budget. The creator just pocket a few million for himself and skimp on the material?
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How exactly/why did Exploding Kittens receive $8.8 million? I played it. It doesn't have much in the box for an $8.8 million budget. The creator just pocket a few million for himself and skimp on the material?


220,000 backers paid an average of $40 for 2 decks: the main game, and the NSFW version. I personally wouldn't buy it, but the price doesn't seem completely unreasonable.
 
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The question about how neccesary it is for this game (and the related Pin-ups) to depict women (alright there are a few male pin ups) in such a way is legit.
Although I personally don't have a problem with that, I kinda wished they would not focus on that so much. When I mail people the link to this KS I have to explain to them that the Pin-Ups have nothing to do with the actual game.
Of course you can argue the artistic value of almost nude women and men (is there such a discussion about 'Game of Thrones' in the US?).

Although there are more women in gaming (and miniature gaming) than a few years ago it's still a dominant male hobby. I'd go so far to say its a christian-white-male hobby.
In the EU (+UK) and the US we are the least discriminated people and thuis have to be more sensitive about discrimination.
Is this game sexist or artistic? I do not know but I can see how you could argue both sides.

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theweefrenchman wrote:
Epidemius wrote:
How exactly/why did Exploding Kittens receive $8.8 million? I played it. It doesn't have much in the box for an $8.8 million budget. The creator just pocket a few million for himself and skimp on the material?


220,000 backers paid an average of $40 for 2 decks: the main game, and the NSFW version. I personally wouldn't buy it, but the price doesn't seem completely unreasonable.


Its just such an "ungame" I can't believe it got $8.8 million whereas a real game like Kingdom Death hasn't beaten it yet. Its a little offensive to me that its the king of board/card games to date.
 
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...its a christian-white-male hobby.
In the EU (+UK) and the US we are the least discriminated people and thuis have to be more sensitive about discrimination.


Minus the Christian part, I would turn that around and say that the "white male" is the *most* discriminated group in the world. Every minority seems to have that group targeted as the "bad" group making it difficult for all the minorities.
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Epidemius wrote:
theweefrenchman wrote:
Epidemius wrote:
How exactly/why did Exploding Kittens receive $8.8 million? I played it. It doesn't have much in the box for an $8.8 million budget. The creator just pocket a few million for himself and skimp on the material?


220,000 backers paid an average of $40 for 2 decks: the main game, and the NSFW version. I personally wouldn't buy it, but the price doesn't seem completely unreasonable.


Its just such an "ungame" I can't believe it got $8.8 million whereas a real game like Kingdom Death hasn't beaten it yet. Its a little offensive to me that its the king of board/card games to date.


There's a few reasons why it's popular.

1. It's created by the guy who does The Oatmeal comics which is very well-known and recognizable, so he's able to reach a much broader audience.

2. Lots of people want to play a simpler game while drinking a few beers and not spend 20 minutes going over rules.

3. Not sure why you call it an "ungame." It may not be your cup of tea, but that's just your taste in games. It hits every metric needed to be a game; complicated rules aren't one of them.
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Epidemius wrote:
theweefrenchman wrote:
Epidemius wrote:
How exactly/why did Exploding Kittens receive $8.8 million? I played it. It doesn't have much in the box for an $8.8 million budget. The creator just pocket a few million for himself and skimp on the material?


220,000 backers paid an average of $40 for 2 decks: the main game, and the NSFW version. I personally wouldn't buy it, but the price doesn't seem completely unreasonable.


Its just such an "ungame" I can't believe it got $8.8 million whereas a real game like Kingdom Death hasn't beaten it yet. Its a little offensive to me that its the king of board/card games to date.


The popularity of the Exploding Kittens KS had nothing to do with game play and everything to do with people being fans of The Oatmeal.

The popularity of Dark Souls, which was the number 2 board game KS a few days ago, had little to do with game play and was all about the popularity of the Dark Souls video game.

You can even look at the original Ghostbusters board game KS. People could watch a video to see the game play. Plenty of people posted they didn't like how the game played, but were backing because it was Ghostbusters.

In short, a good IP sells.
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Mandor wrote:
Epidemius wrote:
theweefrenchman wrote:
Epidemius wrote:
How exactly/why did Exploding Kittens receive $8.8 million? I played it. It doesn't have much in the box for an $8.8 million budget. The creator just pocket a few million for himself and skimp on the material?


220,000 backers paid an average of $40 for 2 decks: the main game, and the NSFW version. I personally wouldn't buy it, but the price doesn't seem completely unreasonable.


Its just such an "ungame" I can't believe it got $8.8 million whereas a real game like Kingdom Death hasn't beaten it yet. Its a little offensive to me that its the king of board/card games to date.


The popularity of the Exploding Kittens KS had nothing to do with game play and everything to do with people being fans of The Oatmeal.

The popularity of Dark Souls, which was the number 2 board game KS a few days ago, had little to do with game play and was all about the popularity of the Dark Souls video game.

You can even look at the original Ghostbusters board game KS. People could watch a video to see the game play. Plenty of people posted they didn't like how the game played, but were backing because it was Ghostbusters.

In short, a good IP sells.


soon we will be the number 1, based on no pre existing ip.
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godzilla999666 wrote:
Mandor wrote:
Epidemius wrote:
theweefrenchman wrote:
Epidemius wrote:
How exactly/why did Exploding Kittens receive $8.8 million? I played it. It doesn't have much in the box for an $8.8 million budget. The creator just pocket a few million for himself and skimp on the material?


220,000 backers paid an average of $40 for 2 decks: the main game, and the NSFW version. I personally wouldn't buy it, but the price doesn't seem completely unreasonable.


Its just such an "ungame" I can't believe it got $8.8 million whereas a real game like Kingdom Death hasn't beaten it yet. Its a little offensive to me that its the king of board/card games to date.


The popularity of the Exploding Kittens KS had nothing to do with game play and everything to do with people being fans of The Oatmeal.

The popularity of Dark Souls, which was the number 2 board game KS a few days ago, had little to do with game play and was all about the popularity of the Dark Souls video game.

You can even look at the original Ghostbusters board game KS. People could watch a video to see the game play. Plenty of people posted they didn't like how the game played, but were backing because it was Ghostbusters.

In short, a good IP sells.


soon we will be the number 1, based on no pre existing ip.


Well.... at this point KD is its own pre-existing IP. whistle
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rpvt wrote:
godzilla999666 wrote:
Mandor wrote:
Epidemius wrote:
theweefrenchman wrote:
Epidemius wrote:
How exactly/why did Exploding Kittens receive $8.8 million? I played it. It doesn't have much in the box for an $8.8 million budget. The creator just pocket a few million for himself and skimp on the material?


220,000 backers paid an average of $40 for 2 decks: the main game, and the NSFW version. I personally wouldn't buy it, but the price doesn't seem completely unreasonable.


Its just such an "ungame" I can't believe it got $8.8 million whereas a real game like Kingdom Death hasn't beaten it yet. Its a little offensive to me that its the king of board/card games to date.


The popularity of the Exploding Kittens KS had nothing to do with game play and everything to do with people being fans of The Oatmeal.

The popularity of Dark Souls, which was the number 2 board game KS a few days ago, had little to do with game play and was all about the popularity of the Dark Souls video game.

You can even look at the original Ghostbusters board game KS. People could watch a video to see the game play. Plenty of people posted they didn't like how the game played, but were backing because it was Ghostbusters.

In short, a good IP sells.


soon we will be the number 1, based on no pre existing ip.


Well.... at this point KD is its own pre-existing IP. whistle


...and it's why I backed. I wasn't sure about the staying power of the game, and the long-term balance, and spending this kind of money on Kickstarter without being sure of either of those isn't what I do any more.
 
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rpvt wrote:
Cuthailion wrote:
...its a christian-white-male hobby.
In the EU (+UK) and the US we are the least discriminated people and thuis have to be more sensitive about discrimination.


Minus the Christian part, I would turn that around and say that the "white male" is the *most* discriminated group in the world. Every minority seems to have that group targeted as the "bad" group making it difficult for all the minorities.


As long as I have not been stoped by the police or did not have problems finding a place to live or simply have been stared at just because of how I look I am not to worried about becoming a minority.
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Cuthailion wrote:
rpvt wrote:
Cuthailion wrote:
...its a christian-white-male hobby.
In the EU (+UK) and the US we are the least discriminated people and thuis have to be more sensitive about discrimination.


Minus the Christian part, I would turn that around and say that the "white male" is the *most* discriminated group in the world. Every minority seems to have that group targeted as the "bad" group making it difficult for all the minorities.


As long as I have not been stoped by the police or did not have problems finding a place to live or simply have been stared at just because of how I look I am not to worried about becoming a minority.


There are places it is downright dangerous to have light skin. And there are laws in the US that will bump "white" people in favor of others, regardless of selection criteria. If you are a business, you are better off being owned by a non-white male if you wish to sell/contract to the US government.
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rpvt wrote:
There are places it is downright dangerous to have light skin. And there are laws in the US that will bump "white" people in favor of others, regardless of selection criteria. If you are a business, you are better off being owned by a non-white male if you wish to sell/contract to the US government.
What are you even talking about?
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