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I've looked through the various threads here. Sleeve recommendations vary from Dragonshield's to Penny sleeves.

Would someone out there give me the an idea of the benefits for each type? Why are some sleeves more expensive than others? Thickness?

I'm looking to purchase sleeves, but want to have some knowledge prior to committing to a brand.
 
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The variables are thickness, edge welds, and back art. In general you get what you pay for and buying in bulk significantly reduces the cost per sleeve.

I haven't experimented with enough different brands to say which is better than another.
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I use FFG clears but have noticed some inconsistencies (which is only frustrating to me, many would say unacceptable). Generally expense has to do with quality (i.e. thickness) and material, but branding and licensed images can also contribute a markup (e.g. FFG clear and opaque solid color standard size card sleeves retail at $2.99 while the same size sleeves featuring art from their licensed properties retail at $4.99).
 
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I like the Game Plus brand. They're same quality as FFG sleeves, but only $1.89.
 
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I've started using KMC Perfect Fits. They're thin but durable, and fit the cards exactly. Also, they're relatively cheap, at $25 for 1000. I like that they're not as thick as the FF ones.
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Rellyk wrote:
I've started using KMC Perfect Fits. They're thin but durable, and fit the cards exactly. Also, they're relatively cheap, at $25 for 1000. I like that they're not as thick as the FF ones.



KMCs are great. As the name implies, they fit perfectly, have close to zero defects, are a good moderate thickness, and are reasonably priced.
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I went with Ultra Pro and have not been disappointed. The small foil logo on the front is something that some people don't like, but they are spot on in size with a great thickness that feels premium without the Dragonshield price tag. I've heard they're comparable to FFG sleeves without as much overhang at the top of the card.
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I use Dragon Shield Matte sleeves for my player decks, but I only keep 50 of each colour to sleeve once decks are constructed from binders. I found that the cost and storage bulk wasn't worth keeping the player cards sleeved all the time. I like Dragon Shield Matte because they hold the cards snugly but it's still easy to sleeve and unsleeve, and they aren't too long at the top as FF sleeves tend to be.

I leave my encounter cards unsleeved also for storage space reasons, but I did give in and sleeve my Saga expansion encounter cards using Ultra Pro standard clear sleeves. Like a previous poster, I found the hologram dot sits close to the bottom and doesn't cover any text, so it's an acceptable compromise between price, aesthetics, and quality (as in, FFG sleeves are much more expensive, while Mayday sleeves are too inconsistent in sizing). Be careful though, I found some Ultra Pro sleeves are just a bit short for FFG cards; the cards go in all the way but the top margin is only about 1 mm.
 
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I use penny sleeves. I sleeve everything, encounter cards included. I've had to replace some sleeves over the past year, but the cards are perfectly fine. After holding Ultra Pros and Dragon Shields for Magic, it takes a different kind of grip to shuffle and handle a deck entirely composed of penny sleeves, but the price is right.
 
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Personally I use FFG clears and I'm happy with them. The best advice I can give though is to do what I did when I first started buying sleeves - go on YouTube and search for some sleeve comparisons. There are quite few that should give you a good idea of the merits of each brand.

As far as I recall, Chaz Marler did a fairly good 'introductory' one, which covered penny sleeves as well as some of the more expensive brands.
 
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Rathje wrote:
I use penny sleeves. I sleeve everything, encounter cards included. I've had to replace some sleeves over the past year, but the cards are perfectly fine. After holding Ultra Pros and Dragon Shields for Magic, it takes a different kind of grip to shuffle and handle a deck entirely composed of penny sleeves, but the price is right.


I do the same and have for many games with "cards" (STAW, The old Star Wars Minis from WotC, and so on). I find they are just fine based on my usage level (1 or 2 nights a week for LotR LCG, or once a week to once a month for other games).
I imagine if I played these decks 4-5 nights a week that the sleeves might not hold up, but at $1 for 100, I always keep 3-5 packs in the bag in reserve.
To mark ownership I use a token slid down the back (i.e. when I play a Dwarf axe from the tactics deck on Thorin in my leadership deck).
Seems to work just fine.
 
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I don't know how hardcore you want to get into it but.....

https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLvqw7t0kbGX9ZlOrr9sqD...

Yes it deals with Magic cards. But LOTR cards are the same size. I don't see any need to double sleeve LOTR cards (they aren't really collectible after all), but you will get to see the best comprehensive rating on sleeves I've ever seen.

I personally use FFG sleeves.
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i use dragon shield mattes for my player decks and FFG clears for all my encounter stuff and all my heroes (i have friends who like to shuffle heroes and IDs in Netrunner back into the decks)
 
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4wallz wrote:
I don't know how hardcore you want to get into it but.....

https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLvqw7t0kbGX9ZlOrr9sqD...

Yes it deals with Magic cards. But LOTR cards are the same size. I don't see any need to double sleeve LOTR cards (they aren't really collectible after all), but you will get to see the best comprehensive rating on sleeves I've ever seen.

I personally use FFG sleeves.


This was a great resource and made me realize the rat hole sleeving can cause.

Double... even triple sleeving stuff boggles my mind.
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Black, red, green, art (all FFG) and clear (FFG or Arcane Tinmen) sleeves. The majority of the encounter cards in black, non-shuffled special cards in red (people to escort, locations to put into play at specific points etc.). Double-sided cards in clear (consistency in thickness is unnecessary) and player decks in One Ring art sleeves. Heroes in green.

Arcane Tinmen clears come in packs of 100 for only a little more than 50 clear FFG sleeves, and are roughly 20 microns thinner. Good enough for me, cheap enough to replace if they ever split.
 
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mandingoman wrote:
Double... even triple sleeving stuff boggles my mind.


In the context of Magic: the Gathering, some decks or cubes are worth a pretty sum. Modern Jund is about $1800. Anything is Legacy is going to be a few thousand.

That's why I mostly just cube. I was lucky to pick up some Zooicide pieces before the deck got to where it is today, but I'm not running Tarmogoyfs, Thoughtseizes, or Mishra's Baubles, which shaves off more than half the cost of the deck. Not that all builds are running goyfs, but not running Thoughtseizes and Baubles is likely just wrong.

Anyway, double sleeving when playing with that much money makes sense to me.
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I've used a few types so far and up until now the Ultra Pro sleeves are by far the best I have had. The most consistent (mayday is as random as can be) and best fitting (FFG tends to have excess 'flaps') and a very good feel to them.
Only downside is the little hologram but they are mostly on the same place and putting it on the back of the card really makes no issue.
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Hello!

I sleeved my cards this way:

Enemies, Locations, Treacheries,... : http://www.ultrapro.com/product_info.php?products_id=1083

Heroes, Attachments, Allies, Events,... : http://www.ultrapro.com/product_info.php?products_id=1078

Questcards: http://www.ultrapro.com/product_info.php?products_id=1077


I love my setup devil
 
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I use Ultra Pro pennies: $5 for 500 form Amazon. They're not perfectly tight around the card, but they work just fine for me; easy to load, easy to shuffle, cards protected, done. I also sort my cards into stacks as I require, print the stack name (e.g. "Core Encounters") on a slip of paper, put it on the stack and (horrors!) rubber band the stack together and throw it in the box--quick and easy to take out and clean up. Any other organizational method I've tried is some combination of too fiddly, too time intensive, and/or takes up too much space.
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