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Ian Kissell
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I know, yet another mid-weight Euro suggestion thread.

I am in the hunt for a mid-weight Euro that is not a worker placement game. I don't mind WP, I just have some in that genre already, and would like a mid-weight that uses a different action selection mechanism. For the record, I would like a mid-weight Euro to be around 60-90 minutes, and somewhere in the 2.8-3.5 weight range (although I take those numbers with a grain of salt). I have a lot of area control and area majority games (El Grande, Nippon, Shogun, Blood Rage), so I would like something a little different.

I'd love to find a game that included a Cyclades style auction (Stockpile is close, but is too short for me), as I like it much more then standard auctions. I also love city-building or tableue building games.

I've played most of the top 200, so I suspect I will have played a lot of the suggestions at least once, but I'd still like to see what people say. Right now, Orleansand Roll for the Galaxyare the leading candidates, although I am not sure I am in love with either.

TLDR:
1. 60-90 minute mid-weight Euro
2. No worker Placement
3. Prefer nodeck builder or standard (ie Power Grid) style auctions, or area majority.

EDIT: For clarity, I am NOT just looking for a game with Cyclades style auction. That was just a bonus I put in case someone had a suggestion for one.
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I would push Deus and Hyperborea as options that I prefer by far over RftG and Orleans.

Have you tried the Pax games by Phil Eklund? I hated Pax Porf but could tell it was a good game. The more recent ones may be better and I am curious to try Pax Ren.

Homesteaders is a cool game. It has a different sort of auction and a bit of tableau building.

ZhanGuo is also supposed to be pretty cool. I still need to try it myself htough.
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Redward wrote:
I would push Deus and Hyperborea as options that I prefer by far over RftG and Orleans.

Have you tried the Pax games by Phil Eklund? I hated Pax Porf but could tell it was a good game. The more recent ones may be better and I am curious to try Pax Ren.

Homesteaders is a cool game. It has a different sort of auction and a bit of tableau building.

ZhanGuo is also supposed to be pretty cool. I still need to try it myself htough.


I saw this title and came here to suggest Hyperborea as well.
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From the title... The Castles of Burgundy. No contest.

But, you mentioned the auctioning mechanism, and I unfortunately don't know of any that also include that.
 
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I would suggest the following:

Shakespeare
Great Western Trail
Kraftwagen

I think they were all pretty interesting to play and pretty medium-weight games.
 
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Of those mentioned:

I don't like Shakespeare or Deus.

I am very meh on Castles of Burgundy, Hyperborea.

Great Western Trail looks like a 3 hour bore. I'll play it eventually, but it looks repetitive and a mess of mechanics.

Kraftwagen is great, but is not great with 2 players, which I would prefer it to be.

 
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Castles of Mad King Ludwig?

No auction, but you are trying to set price points for various players.

Castle building, instead of city building.

Have you tried Isle of Skye? Not strictly an auction, but price setting. Everyone is building their own map.

Both of these games allow you to specialize in particular scoring strategies and both offer general scoring mechanisms for everybody that change game-to-game (like Kingdom Builder).
 
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I am extremely meh on both of those games, especially Isle of Skye.

I am not really that interested in auctions or price setting in general. I just really like the type of auction that Cyclades has.
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Yunnan might work - says worker placement but is in the auction part??
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A little on the longer side, but Tin Goose has some interesting things going on in it.
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Concordia
 
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Maybe Firenze? Hard to get and no auctions, but otherwise hits your points.
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KissellMissile wrote:
Right now, Orleansand Roll for the Galaxyare the leading candidates, although I am not sure I am in love with either.

TLDR:
1. 60-90 minute mid-weight Euro
2. No worker Placement
3. Prefer nodeck builder or standard (ie Power Grid) style auctions, or area majority.


How can you not be in love with either game and call them "leading candidates"? Sounds like a recipe for settling.

Anyway, I don't know what standard Power Grid-style auctions are since I've never played it and have no interest, so if I accidentally recommend a game with that...sorry. Try the following:

Goa
CO2
Luna
Trajan
Gold West
Islebound
City of Iron (2nd ed)
 
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You've probably played it but, if not, Goa might fit the bill.
 
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Doesn't hit all of your criteria, but I suspect that you would enjoy Glass Road
 
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No auctions, but just great:

Luna
 
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Castles of Burgundy, Castles of Mad King Ludwig and Orleans are all favorites of ours in the mid weight euro category. Deus is one that we are also interested and is on our Christmas list but we have not played it yet.
 
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KissellMissile wrote:
I'd love to find a game that included a Cyclades style auction (Stockpile is close, but is too short for me), as I like it much more then standard auctions. I also love city-building or tableue building games.

Peloponnes
Homesteaders
Vegas Showdown

I believe Amun-Re also fits

Keyflower has something similar, but also has worker placement.

Full disclosure: Homesteaders has worker meeples that you place on your buildings, but it's not worker placement. Where you place your meeples dictates your income for the round, and you may have more buildings with places for workers than workers (thus some buildings will not contribute for that round).
 
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Nicholas M wrote:
No auctions, but just great:

Luna

It is a great mid-weight euro, but it's mighty worker placement.

On the light side of mid-weight, I've been loving Tom Wham's eurofied Feudality. It doesn't exactly have Cyclades-style auctioning, but there is a little competitive purchasing element each turn. Otherwise, it's what you get if you take the best elements of Catan and BvB and apply a little more narrative and a sense of humor.

 
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