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Matthew Guillemette
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Hi there,
Played 3 four-player games tonight, and had a blast! We were still not sure what to do with the Market once someone is eliminated.
1) Does the extra row become available to either side?
2) Do the cards just attrition, where as cards are bought they don't replenish until you are back down to 3 cards between the players?
3) can the players on both sides of the defeated player buy from the extra row, or only the person who eliminated the player?

When you get down to 2 players from 4 or more, do both players have access to all of the cards on the table? And how do you treat the cards, per the above?
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1) There is only one market row.
2) the moment you buy a card in market row you replace it with another from the market pile.
3) market row have always 5 cards available for buy.

why i have the feeling you play something wrong......
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Schneu wrote:
Hi there,
Played 3 four-player games tonight, and had a blast! We were still not sure what to do with the Market once someone is eliminated.
1) Does the extra row become available to either side?
2) Do the cards just attrition, where as cards are bought they don't replenish until you are back down to 3 cards between the players?
3) can the players on both sides of the defeated player buy from the extra row, or only the person who eliminated the player?

When you get down to 2 players from 4 or more, do both players have access to all of the cards on the table? And how do you treat the cards, per the above?
Thanks!
-Matthew


Cthulhu Realms uses different trade rows, but Hero Realms doesn't.

When playing with 3+ players, you use the same set-up as during a 2 players game. That means only one Trade Row, five cards, so nothing changes when a player is eliminated, except that his/her cards are no longer in play. So you cannot stun their champions or target them for any kind of effect.
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Wow. I feel like a complete noob! How many times have people said on these forums "just read the freaking rules..." Apparently HR has been simplified from the modes that SR uses.

We have always played multiplayer as "Hunter - Last one standing" The difference is that there are shared market rows between each player. A 4-player setup looks like this:



The x's are the Deck and the Fire gems respectively. Each player sits in a corner and has access to the two rows bordering them, both of which are shared with the person to that side. So player A would have access to 1 and 2, player B would share access to 2, and have access to 3, etc.

This is why I got confused. I can't imagine how much it would suck to have 4 players only scrounging from the default 5 cards. Explorers would be gone almost immediately if you were to pull a 6+ value market...

(Aside: since HR has no scrapping of the trade row it is slightly simpler, but when we play this in SR, we rule that those cards allow you to target the entire trade row, even the parts you cannot access.)

Kinda glad we have been playing wrong all this time!
Now back to the original question... What happens when someone is eliminated...
-Matthew
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Uh... That was already answered. When a player is eliminated, they're out of the game. It's treated as if they were never /in/ the game, meaning targeting now works for the players still in the game to your left and right.
(So in your example, if A is defeated, D/B are now considered adjacent)
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Schneu wrote:
Now back to the original question... What happens when someone is eliminated...
-Matthew


As others have stated, there are no such rules in the official rule book. If you want an "official" ruling, go find the source where you found the rules and ask them.


Now, the variant you describe does sound a lot like the Cthulhu Realms multiplayer rules. In those rules, when a player is eliminated, the markets that the player had access to are sacrificed (scrapped, abjured, removed from the game) and a new, 3 card market is dealt to be shared by the two players to either side of him.
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