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Weston Ferguson
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As far as I can tell this is currently out of print. Does anyone know when the reprint is due?
 
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I think Europe just had one, I was after this for 3 months but it was ridiculous prices. The begining of December a couple online retailers had copies in German but it doesn't matter.
 
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I believe the English version is due in the next few months, but as Paul said, there are German copies fairly readily available. It is not at all language dependent so just download the rules from here and you will be fine.
 
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Where would be a good place to nab a German copy?
 
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Here is an Australian online retailer with it in stock. But the shipping may kill the deal for you...
http://www.adventgames.com.au/p/9216971/arboretum-german-aba...
 
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You can also get the French version in some locations in Canada:

GreatBoardGames.ca
BoardGameBliss.ca

I’ve been tempted myself to spring for the extra cost of shipping, but I’m hopeful the English reprint will come along before I need to get the game for my parents. We’ll see. If the inventory gets down to one at one of these two places, I’ll probably cave.
 
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I just saw an english copy in the geek store that was played once for $20 plus shipping. I think I'm gonna give that a shot.
 
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WestonTheFox wrote:
As far as I can tell this is currently out of print. Does anyone know when the reprint is due?

Maybe it's just me but I sort of cringe at over eagerness to refer to something that does seem to be "out of stock" and "very slow on the re-supply" as being out of print.

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TVis wrote:
WestonTheFox wrote:
As far as I can tell this is currently out of print. Does anyone know when the reprint is due?

Maybe it's just me but I sort of cringe at over eagerness to refer to something that does seem to be "out of stock" and "very slow on the re-supply" as being out of print.


To me if a retailer does not have it, it is out of stock. If the manufacturer/publisher does not have any stock to supply retailers than it is out of print. The game must be reprinted before orders are fulfilled. Ergo it is out of print.

Just because a print run is scheduled doesn't mean it is not out of print right now.
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WestonTheFox wrote:
Where would be a good place to nab a German copy?


Amazon.de?

The german copy is published by Abacus Spiel, so including that in your googling might help.
 
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GregDarcy wrote:
To me if a retailer does not have it, it is out of stock. If the manufacturer/publisher does not have any stock to supply retailers than it is out of print. The game must be reprinted before orders are fulfilled. Ergo it is out of print.

I would make the distinction of "between printings" and "out of print."

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I love splitting hairs...

If something is "between printings" then it stands to reason it has to be out of print before it can go into another printing. No? Supposedly Agricola: All Creatures Big and Small is being reprinted this year. So it's also "between printings" And it's been between printings for years.


...Until the said newest printing is available, it's out of print isn't it? Be it for a week or for years or forever.

I think most gamers can recall a game or two that has been "between printings" for years. With the promise of it coming, yet never actually arriving...yet. So would you call that between printings or out of print? Or both? lol
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According to various dictionaries, "out of print" means not available from the publisher.
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gillum wrote:
According to various dictionaries, "out of print" means not available from the publisher.


That works for me. Sometimes it really is just that simple. Leave it to gamers to get AP over a definition.
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Just came back in stock at Miniature Market. Of course, the price also jumped at the same time from 13 and change up to $20, so I'll pass for now, but, it's now there to grab if you want it.
 
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zenpunk wrote:
Just came back in stock at Miniature Market. Of course, the price also jumped at the same time from 13 and change up to $20, so I'll pass for now, but, it's now there to grab if you want it.


Do you all think that is just because it is in demand or because it is Amsodee pricing?
 
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hawkeyept wrote:
Do you all think that is just because it is in demand or because it is Amsodee pricing?

Most likely because they know it is in demand. You'll notice for most products they show you the list or "regular" price greyed out, with their "special" price below it. But for really in-demand stuff they just show the price.

Can't really blame 'em, as it's already sold out again, even at the higher price. MM isn't as nearly as bad as CSI at that kind of stuff, though... I've noticed CSI really likes to tweak the price up on games that are in-between runs or due soon, even going over list price.. a big part of why I switched to MM. That and their awesome customer hold feature.
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hawkeyept wrote:
zenpunk wrote:
Just came back in stock at Miniature Market. Of course, the price also jumped at the same time from 13 and change up to $20, so I'll pass for now, but, it's now there to grab if you want it.


Do you all think that is just because it is in demand or because it is Amsodee pricing?

I think $20 is MSRP. Not even the Asmodee tax drives prices up that high.
 
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Any ideas of when this will be back! Would love to get my hand on a copy.
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freightrain12 wrote:
Any ideas of when this will be back! Would love to get my hand on a copy.


Me too! I've been tempted to just get the French version, but will wait a bit longer in hopes that the English one is back in stock.
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I've been waiting myself, hope it's coming soon. Russian Railroads has also been really slow to reprint.
 
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Maddest Hatter wrote:
I love splitting hairs...

If something is "between printings" then it stands to reason it has to be out of print before it can go into another printing. No? Supposedly Agricola: All Creatures Big and Small is being reprinted this year. So it's also "between printings" And it's been between printings for years.


...Until the said newest printing is available, it's out of print isn't it? Be it for a week or for years or forever.

I think most gamers can recall a game or two that has been "between printings" for years. With the promise of it coming, yet never actually arriving...yet. So would you call that between printings or out of print? Or both? lol


Yes! Good grief Tomello...
 
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I guess it's still "between printings?" Egads. It's a crime that it's hard to find.
 
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One may also wonder how an issue of "between publishers" (Asmodee/Z-Man) contributes to this. It is now 10 months since news described here:

/blogpost/56171/asmodee-negotiations-acquire-f2z-entertainme...


Edit:
see also
/blogpost/58914/f2z-entertainment-now-asmodee-canada

 
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TVis wrote:
One may also wonder how an issue of "between publishers" (Asmodee/Z-Man) contributes to this. It is now 10 months since news described here:

/blogpost/56171/asmodee-negotiations-acquire-f2z-entertainme...


Edit:
see also
/blogpost/58914/f2z-entertainment-now-asmodee-canada



While I try to blame as many things as possible on Asmodee, Z-Man were already experts at leaving games between printings for prolonged periods of time without Asmodee's help.
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