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Are there competitors to HeroScape?

What games are there that have painted miniatures like HeroScape or AT-43? I have no desire to deal with a measuring tape like AT-43, and I don't like the time-warp mishmash theme of HeroScape. I don't like the collectibility of A&A or SW minis. What recommendations would you have? (Yes, I am being rather picky.)
 
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Non-collectible, pre-painted minis that use a board?

I'd say Heroclix/Horrorclix, if you only shop the secondary market and don't buy boosters, but you could do that with SW/D&D minis if you wanted as well.

Tanhauser appears to maybe fit the bill, but the Enlgish version isn't available just yet.

If the minis were painted, I'd say Descent would also satisfy you.
 
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Lots of Miniatures games have painted Minis if you get somebody ELSE to paint them

For example. I recently grabbed a Bloodbowl team + extras + postage for $50 USD from a guy in Belgium. surprise

Back in the day when I was playing ancients/medievals, I got a professional to paint my morphable Arab type army (Lots of Camels and crappy archers ) That cost me about $660 AUD (and about 250 more to provide the lead) Sounds alot, but when you look at something that will look great and has phenomenal replayability (as opposed to fad collectible games) It's definitely money well spent.





 
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Prepainted, non-collecty, no measuring?

Nuthing comes to mind at all...
 
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Of course, there's always the Super Hero version of HeroScape, but I don't know if thats a competitor to HeroScape.
 
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My suggestion would be to buy Heroscape for the figures, then download some free miniatures wargame rules off the 'Net. There are rules for all sorts of skirmish games for free that could utilize the Heroscape figs.
 
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Battlefield Evolution is non-collectible.

 
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kingbobb wrote:
Non-collectible, pre-painted minis that use a board?


Navia Dratp! You can get a complete set cheaply now (there are only about 50 miniatures), it has a board and the gameplay is very good!

Do you like Shogi?
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I don't believe that you are a true miniature gamer until you either own more unpainted miniatures than painted ones OR you own more unpainted miniatures than you will possibly complete in the lifetime you have remaining.

I know you aren't interested in painting, so that may put you in the category of 3-D boardgamer?

For games with pre-painted figures, I'd recommend Wings of War miniatures. No tape measure, no dice, scalable and a moderate level of realism.

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Quote:
I don't like the time-warp mishmash theme of HeroScape.


There's D&D Heroscape now.
 
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Battleground.
 
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In all honesty, you're NOT a miniature gamer. You like confrontational games with a modular board and miniatures on it. Just like i do. And the problem is that there are not many alternatives on the market.

You might want to try the following though:

1. Doom + Doom expansion
2. Space Hulk
3. Claustrophobia
4. Dungeon Twister Prison
5. Battlelore

They all come with miniatures and customizable/modular boards and are confrontational. It's not quite the same as Heroscape but it's at least the next best thing. I know what you're longing for but there just isn't anything there.
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kingbobb wrote:
Non-collectible, pre-painted minis that use a board?

Tanhauser appears to maybe fit the bill, but the Enlgish version isn't available just yet.



Tannhauser
's been out in English for 3 years. It's always been lacking a little something, however, but shows great potential. Fantasy Flight just completed a major overhaul of the game after listening to comments like mine, and has reworked the rules from the bottom-up. I'm getting my copy on Wednesday, and the initial water-cooler buzz is very positive so far.

Anyway, it's got nice painted minis, a board with line-of-sight pre-printed, removing the need for measuring. It's expandable with additional minis, but not 'collectible' in the sense that you know exactly what you're getting. These are all good things.

The theme may or may not work for you. You say you don't like the time-warp aspect of Heroscape. If you don't like the non-realistic nature, Tannhauser is in trouble: it takes place in a world where World War I never ended. As the fight became more desperate, each side was forced to reveal its deepest government secrets to stay competitive. For example, the US really did have aliens land at Roswell, and now reverse engineers their technology to make new battlefield weapons. If, however, the thing you don't like about Heroscape's time-warp is that it's too free-wheeling and roughly-defined, Tannhauser's theme should be great: it's got pages of backstory, clear 'rules' for how the world it's set in operates, and a distinct feel.

This might be perfect for you. I've always wanted to love it, myself, but found the base rules missing something important but hard-to-identify. I'd wait a week and see exactly what reviews start coming in for the new rules. The next printing (second edition?) will have the new rules bundled with them, but I haven't looked into when that will be.


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If the minis were painted, I'd say Descent would also satisfy you.


Yeah, Descent is awesome. But not painted. Play it first, if you get the chance: I've never really felt like it was a minis game, just a game that happens to includes lots and lots of figures. That said, it's always a good time around here. But, again, not painted.
 
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Nova2001 wrote:
kingbobb wrote:
Non-collectible, pre-painted minis that use a board?

Tanhauser appears to maybe fit the bill, but the Enlgish version isn't available just yet.


Tannhauser
's been out in English for 3 years.



Whoa! Looking back up top... this thread is 3 years old. How'd this end up on today's front page?
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Renaissance Man wrote:


ummm... this game includes NO miniatures.
 
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Song of Blades and heroes can be played on a hex, and with that you can use the pre-painted minis from other 15mm or 28mm lines. The hex map will remove the need for measuring, and the ruleset is pretty light, which makes it pretty easy to play.
 
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