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Hi there. I have some question about using karama cards or Bene worthless to block other players special powers. We play with advanced powers so there is many of them.

Can we use it to prevent: (for 1 use/turn of course)

- free revivals (need to pay for all 3)
- use of the other karama card (karama vs karama)
- fremen special deployment (so they have to ship it normaly)
- harkonner hand limit (so they can't bid because of max limit)

I think the question should be: would you allow it? Or do you play with it?
 
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Karama rules as written don't allow any of those I believe. To check for yourself, I find the Karama rules written in this rulebook are the clearest, on page 26 (or 24 as labelled).

https://www.boardgamegeek.com/filepage/92555/consolidated-du...

Make sure you read the note at the bottom on the meaning of the colours.

The only thing I *might* consider as a house rule is the karama cancels a karama change, but that seems like it cancels fun.
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zurn wrote:
Karama rules as written don't allow any of those I believe. To check for yourself, I find the Karama rules written in this rulebook are the clearest, on page 26 (or 24 as labelled).

https://www.boardgamegeek.com/filepage/92555/consolidated-du...

Make sure you read the note at the bottom on the meaning of the colours.

The only thing I *might* consider as a house rule is the karama cancels a karama change, but that seems like it cancels fun.

FWIW: you can Karama Bene Gesserit use of a Worthless Card as a Karama.

My thoughts on the other uses
- free revivals (need to pay for all 3)
This will hurt Fremen the most, and benefit Emperor and Guild the most. In terms of fun and balance both those things are undesirable.

- use of the other karama card (karama vs karama)
This makes Bene-Gesserit stronger, which isn't needed.

- fremen special deployment (so they have to ship it normaly)
Fremen have it hard enough as it is: why nerf them with an extra Karama effect? You can already Karama their worm-riding.

- harkonner hand limit (so they can't bid because of max limit)
You could, but it sounds fiddly. How long does it last? A single bid? A single round? What happens to cards they hold already over the limit?
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Just to add a vote, I totally agree with all of Klaude's comments above.
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