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Would help bring the cost down too. We don't need minis in every game.

Please vote if you would like this option:

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I'll add my voice to this opinion. I backed Gloomhaven at the standee level and wish more games that included miniatures would offer the option for HQ standees instead of minis. Maybe if this game needs a relaunch, an option for standees could be researched.
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Gamelyn Games is going through this with Heroes of Land, Air & Sea. They created 3 new SKUs for standees, costing them thousands of dollars, and so far 127 of the 1467 (9%) backers have chosen the new cheaper option. They've also admitted that they can't support standees in the future and that expansions won't offer them.

Same with Gloomhaven. Less than 1/3 of backers selected standees, then a vast majority of those added on minis to get both. Future content will also not feature standees.

If the publisher can afford it and it brings in more backers, I'm all for it. Just know that it's not as simple as making something cheaper.
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Yes, when you start by offering miniatures, most people will opt for that option because it is the "complete" version of the game, and many people in our hobby are completionists. Miniatures are also the trending *thing* in games currently, which is why we see so many companies utilizing them to push their games. I guess I really just wish that certain projects would do the reverse: start with standees and then offer minis as an add-on if the game funds well. Oh well, one upside to saturating the market with so many miniature-heavy games is that there will have to be a tipping point and the costs should eventually start to come down.

On another note, I find the Gloomhaven decision curious considering any expansion that will introduce new monsters/bosses will be primarily standees anyways (though I imagine any expansion to that game will be quite a ways off).

**(edit)** Also, I greatly appreciate Gamelyn Games making this an option, but I think it really puts a negative spin on going with the standee option when you imply that you won't offer standees for any future expansion content and the standees will only be as nice as the number of backers who choose those tiers (and that you'll need 500-1000 backers to do them proper justice).
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MAJBrown22 wrote:
Gamelyn Games is going through this with Heroes of Land, Air & Sea. They created 3 new SKUs for standees, costing them thousands of dollars, and so far 127 of the 1467 (9%) backers have chosen the new cheaper option. They've also admitted that they can't support standees in the future and that expansions won't offer them.

Same with Gloomhaven. Less than 1/3 of backers selected standees, then a vast majority of those added on minis to get both. Future content will also not feature standees.

Interesting.
 
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jayelbird wrote:
MAJBrown22 wrote:
Gamelyn Games is going through this with Heroes of Land, Air & Sea. They created 3 new SKUs for standees, costing them thousands of dollars, and so far 127 of the 1467 (9%) backers have chosen the new cheaper option. They've also admitted that they can't support standees in the future and that expansions won't offer them.

Same with Gloomhaven. Less than 1/3 of backers selected standees, then a vast majority of those added on minis to get both. Future content will also not feature standees.

Interesting.


Minis are overrated.. If more publishers offered standees eventually people would realize it's a better option for those of us who are gamers not painters.
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Here to voice my approval of this request. I really don't need any more miniatures. A standee version would help reduce the cost and also the weight of the game which may either reduce the shipping cost to the UK (which is actually very reasonable at $10), or at least help it stay at the estimated cost.

At the moment I am not going to pledge as I feel I am buying miniatures that I really don't need.

The game looks great though and I appreciate the effort put in to making it solo friendly. Give us a standee or token option and I am in!
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I'm actually for minis, I prefer them to standees, especially well painted minis. cool
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Here to voice my approval of this request. I really don't need any more miniatures. A standee version would help reduce the cost and also the weight of the game which may either reduce the shipping cost to the UK (which is actually very reasonable at $10), or at least help it stay at the estimated cost.

At the moment I am not going to pledge as I feel I am buying miniatures that I really don't need.

The game looks great though and I appreciate the effort put in to making it solo friendly. Give us a standee or token option and I am in!


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Standees? Really? See how that fared with Heroes of Land, Sea, and Air.
 
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rvrratt wrote:
Standees? Really? See how that fared with Heroes of Land, Sea, and Air.


Yes, it fares poorly when you do it 1) as an afterthought and 2a) inform the people who might be interested in buying standees that you have no plans to support standees in future products and 2b) unless you get 500-1000 backers for the standee tiers, you'll only be able to do an okay job on those standees.
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Standees? Really? See how that fared with Heroes of Land, Sea, and Air.


Well they didn't do it right obviously.
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BoardTogether wrote:
jayelbird wrote:
MAJBrown22 wrote:
Gamelyn Games is going through this with Heroes of Land, Air & Sea. They created 3 new SKUs for standees, costing them thousands of dollars, and so far 127 of the 1467 (9%) backers have chosen the new cheaper option. They've also admitted that they can't support standees in the future and that expansions won't offer them.

Same with Gloomhaven. Less than 1/3 of backers selected standees, then a vast majority of those added on minis to get both. Future content will also not feature standees.

Interesting.


Minis are overrated.. If more publishers offered standees eventually people would realize it's a better option for those of us who are gamers not painters.


I'm a gamer, not a painter, and I prefer minis...in all their naked plastic glory.
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I just wanted to step in and thank everyone for their feedback. We listen to and consider every suggestion that is made about our games. This is one of the many reasons we love BGG so much! meeple

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The problem with the poll is that people who love minis are just going to vote "no" because they see it as "which do you prefer".
When in fact it is just asking if people would like a choice. I mean, why would you not want a choice of standees if you prefer them.
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steftymo wrote:
The problem with the poll is that people who love minis are just going to vote "no" because they see it as "which do you prefer".
When in fact it is just asking if people would like a choice. I mean, why would you not want a choice of standees if you prefer them.


I agree. We are talking about having the OPTION with standees. People voting "no" seem to think they would loose the minis.
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Indeed, no one is suggesting that minis shouldn't be available. I like minis too, but I just have so many of them and in this game, they don't really add that much in my opinion as the meat of the game is the deck building and hand management. I can easily proxy the minis if I need them, or use standees if available.

Anyway, I have starred the project for now and I'll take another look when it hits the 48 hour mark.
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There is a difference between a miniatures game and a game that happens to use miniatures. DA seems to me to be more of the latter, and as such I think standees or tokens would be fine.
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I would actually want the monsters to be standees instead of a square lying flat on the board.
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BasenjiMaster wrote:
steftymo wrote:
The problem with the poll is that people who love minis are just going to vote "no" because they see it as "which do you prefer".
When in fact it is just asking if people would like a choice. I mean, why would you not want a choice of standees if you prefer them.


I agree. We are talking about having the OPTION with standees. People voting "no" seem to think they would loose the minis.


Yeah people need to vote properly, it's for the additional option of standees only
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Gamely cancelled their Kickstarter for Heroes of Land, Air & Sea and will be relaunching in May. Their standee option drew so little interest that they're not going to offer it when they relaunch.
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The Boilerman wrote:
BoardTogether wrote:
Minis are overrated.. If more publishers offered standees eventually people would realize it's a better option for those of us who are gamers not painters.


I'm a gamer, not a painter, and I prefer minis...in all their naked plastic glory.


Yeah. I'm odd in that as long as the minis are detailed enough, I prefer them unpainted. For instance, I love the unpainted look of the Arcadia Quest minis.
 
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Gamely cancelled their Kickstarter for Heroes of Land, Air & Sea and will be relaunching in May. Their standee option drew so little interest that they're not going to offer it when they relaunch.


Apples to oranges, that game looks like pure rubbish.
 
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BoardTogether wrote:
MAJBrown22 wrote:
Gamely cancelled their Kickstarter for Heroes of Land, Air & Sea and will be relaunching in May. Their standee option drew so little interest that they're not going to offer it when they relaunch.


Apples to oranges, that game looks like pure rubbish.


Not at all. Proves my point. Get out of here with those standees!
 
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