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Now we have the fox clan as (exclusive) 6th clan, it seems very likely that there will be a total of 8 clans - 1 for each province.
As the honor track only allows for max 6 clans to play with in any given game, it seems very likely that we will be able to choose 6 from 8.
Much like the Gods, of which we can pick only 4 in each game.

Because the fox clan is KSE, there will be at least one more for retail buyers in order to play with 6 players.
So there will be at least 7 clans. Add 8 provinces --> one more clan.

Now what to think about the remaining 2 clans - stretch goals or add-ons?
Blood Rage had the 5th player set as add-on/expansion - so it seems likely RS will do the same.
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Yep I'm pretty much certain this will be what happens.
 
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I bet the expansion add-on will be the other 2 clans together.
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Well looking at the new released player board for the fox clan we can clearly see this clan "start"? in the orange zone.

Assuming they adhere to the colors of the board.
We have 6 known clan colors:

Yellow, Bonai
Red, Koi
Blue, Dragonfly
Purple, Lotus
Grey?, Turtle
Orange, Fox

So that leaves to regions, Green and Brown.

Which are assuming 2 new factions we haven't heard about.

Any speculations on what those might be?
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The Turtle clan is actually a green color (though a bit grayish).

I think that there should be a bear clan on the brown island,.... no ideas yet on the other one.
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Velorian wrote:
Well looking at the new released player board for the fox clan we can clearly see this clan "start"? in the orange zone.
Assuming they adhere to the colors of the board.
We have 6 known clan colors:

Yellow, Bonai
Red, Koi
Blue, Dragonfly
Purple, Lotus
Grey?, Turtle
Orange, Fox

So that leaves to regions, Green and Brown.
Which are assuming 2 new factions we haven't heard about.
Any speculations on what those might be?

Well green - Crane bird clan would seem very much in the tradition of Japanese folklore.
Hopefully with at least a female Daimyo ..

Brown - Monkey clan would be very much suited for the other.
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I'm a fan of L5R and I would be more than happy to find either Scorpion (brown) or Mantis (green)
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I'm really skeptical of the 8 provinces = 8 clans theory. Playtesting 8 asymmetrical clans to work together in any combination of 3-6 seems insane. It would definitely be good add-on fodder, though, boosting the funding for further stretch goals.

Except...it seems like right now, after the initial rush, is the time in which add-on #1 should appear.
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Teowulff wrote:
Velorian wrote:
Well looking at the new released player board for the fox clan we can clearly see this clan "start"? in the orange zone.
Assuming they adhere to the colors of the board.
We have 6 known clan colors:

Yellow, Bonai
Red, Koi
Blue, Dragonfly
Purple, Lotus
Grey?, Turtle
Orange, Fox

So that leaves to regions, Green and Brown.
Which are assuming 2 new factions we haven't heard about.
Any speculations on what those might be?

Well green - Crane bird clan would seem very much in the tradition of Japanese folklore.
Hopefully with at least a female Daimyo ..

Brown - Monkey clan would be very much suited for the other.
Even though the minis are kind of grey, the Turtle clan is the green clan. All of their pieces are bright green.
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kpishnery wrote:
I'm really skeptical of the 8 provinces = 8 clans theory. Playtesting 8 asymmetrical clans to work together in any combination of 3-6 seems insane. It would definitely be good add-on fodder, though, boosting the funding for further stretch goals.

Except...it seems like right now, after the initial rush, is the time in which add-on #1 should appear.


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YoshiFR wrote:
kpishnery wrote:
I'm really skeptical of the 8 provinces = 8 clans theory. Playtesting 8 asymmetrical clans to work together in any combination of 3-6 seems insane. It would definitely be good add-on fodder, though, boosting the funding for further stretch goals.

Except...it seems like right now, after the initial rush, is the time in which add-on #1 should appear.


Scythe has 7

Indeed.

We now have 6 asymmetrical clans.
How would it be so much more difficult to add 2 more?
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Teowulff wrote:

We now have 6 asymmetrical clans.
How would it be so much more difficult to add 2 more?
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Well, there's 42 ways to choose 3 to 6 clans from the current 6 clans. With 8 clans to choose from, this goes up to 210...
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laugh Eight arms to hold you
Eight arms to squeeze you tight


Since the Japanese love Octopi
Obviously there must be 8 clans to help attract the octopoids
So the 7th or 8th Clan will be Octopussys

Easy!
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kpishnery wrote:
I'm really skeptical of the 8 provinces = 8 clans theory. Playtesting 8 asymmetrical clans to work together in any combination of 3-6 seems insane. It would definitely be good add-on fodder, though, boosting the funding for further stretch goals.

Except...it seems like right now, after the initial rush, is the time in which add-on #1 should appear.


Now? I disagree. I think they'll wait until a day goes by without new goals being unlocked before they announce any add-ons. Right now the money has slowed but is still steadily coming in. When they announce an add-on, there will be a torrent of new money immediately.
 
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chas59 wrote:
laugh Eight arms to hold you
Eight arms to squeeze you tight


Since the Japanese love Octopi
Obviously there must be 8 clans to help attract the octopoids
So the 7th or 8th Clan will be Octopussys

Easy!




Now really, i would love an octopus clan
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YoshiFR wrote:
I'm a fan of L5R and I would be more than happy to find either Scorpion (brown) or Mantis (green)


Unfortunately; if you look at the Fox clan artwork; you'll see that it was originally intended as the Scorpion clan (just like the Bonsai were the Cherry Blossom, and the Koi were the Uchujin (Flower of Death) Clan),....



So I am afraid that we won't see Scorpion now.
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The only thing I see suggesting against the existence of 8 clans is the gameplay preview. On the upper left corner of the board there is a track for honor. There are only six spaces on this track. 5 base clans, 1 stretch goal clan.
Though
A: It's a prototype board
and
B: That last two hypothetical clans may use different mechanics and eschew the concept of honor all together. Perhaps an oni clan which is perpetually dishonorable and a kami clan which is always honorable.
 
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CaGeRit wrote:
The only thing I see suggesting against the existence of 8 clans is the gameplay preview. On the upper left corner of the board there is a track for honor. There are only six spaces on this track. 5 base clans, 1 stretch goal clan.
Though
A: It's a prototype board
and
B: That last two hypothetical clans may use different mechanics and eschew the concept of honor all together. Perhaps an oni clan which is perpetually dishonorable and a kami clan which is always honorable.


The play count can also cap at 6, but have 8 playable clans.
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Good point.
 
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yamato2 wrote:
YoshiFR wrote:
I'm a fan of L5R and I would be more than happy to find either Scorpion (brown) or Mantis (green)


Unfortunately; if you look at the Fox clan artwork; you'll see that it was originally intended as the Scorpion clan (just like the Bonsai were the Cherry Blossom, and the Koi were the Uchujin (Flower of Death) Clan),....



So I am afraid that we won't see Scorpion now.


Good catch. Seeing it now, the drawing have more of a evil scorpian feeling than a fast fox. Mayve CMON don't want any problem with FFG upcoming L5R cardgame
 
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A surprising number of changes from art to the game

Also the "turtle clan" look like they might as well be Oni,.... def not human.
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What the additional clans are concerned, I think a lot of people will buy the (upcoming) add-on set with 2 new clans as well. You can buy them at retail at a later date, sure, but you won't get the plastic fortresses, clan tokens and such as they are KSE.

Beware! :-)
 
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Yeah,..... they could easily have a $50 expansion box,.... I'd love $40 but you know where this is going.
 
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https://boardgamegeek.com/thread/1715131/additional-clan

One of my guesses for additional clans was the Fox Clan. I got that one right.

My other guesses were Bamboo Clan, Cherry Blossom Clan, Crab Clan, and Cicada Clan.

 
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NecroNuke9 wrote:

My other guesses were Bamboo Clan, Cherry Blossom Clan, Crab Clan, and Cicada Clan.


A crab clan is very unlikely, because of what we saw with the fox clan : they primarily designed it to be the scorpion clan, but moved back and switched it to fox to avoid rights problems with AEG and L5R ; then it is also unlikely that the remaining blue clan would be crane, which is a pity ! I agree on bamboo clan.
 
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