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Subject: Dice Masters – New rule for 1st turn rss

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Dice Masters – New Rule Announcement

This rule adjustment should reduce the big advantage of playing first.

Depending on the particular mirror match in question, they were seeing the first player won somewhere between 72% and 76% of games. In total, their playtest groups logged over 100 games just trying to determine the current state of the first turn advantage.

As announced by WizKids, the new rule was applied for offical tournaments as of Friday November 11th, 2016.

New Rule: The player who goes first in a game of Dice Masters, on their first turn, only draws 3 dice from their bag during their Clear and Draw Step, and places 1 die from their bag out of play.

http://wizkids.com/2016/11/07/dice-masters-new-rule-announce...

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zenon49 wrote:
Dice Masters – New Rule Announcement

This rule adjustment should reduce the big advantage of playing first.

Depending on the particular mirror match in question, they were seeing the first player won somewhere between 72% and 76% of games. In total, their playtest groups logged over 100 games just trying to determine the current state of the first turn advantage.


New Rule: The player who goes first in a game of Dice Masters, on their first turn, only draws 3 dice from their bag during their Clear and Draw Step, and places 1 die from their bag out of play.

http://wizkids.com/2016/11/07/dice-masters-new-rule-announce...

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Out of play means he will not be able to use it anymore?
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Nope.
If it is your turn and you buy for example some characters with energy, this consumed energy dice go to "Out of Play", it is considered as an transit area. Unblocked characters on your turn go to "Out of play".
Consumed action dice also go to "Out of play".
Purchased dice/die go[es] to the "Used Pile" area.


Cleanup(end of your turn)
Characters that were KO’d (from damage from an attacker, damage from a blocker, or some other effect during the Assign Damage step) are sent to the Prep Area.
Characters that blocked or were blocked but not KO’d return to the Field Zone.
All damage to all dice is cleared. All effects end (except “While active” effects). Actions still in a player’s Reserve Pool move to the "Used Pile" (unless they’re on an energy face). Only dice showing energy faces can remain in the Reserve Pool.

The turn ends. Move all of your dice from "Out of Play" to "Used Pile".

If it isn't your turn and you pay e.g. for a global effect this energy dice go directly to "Used pile" and not to "Out of play".

Here is a video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IvOp7TDuty8
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zenon49 wrote:
Dice Masters – New Rule Announcement

This rule adjustment should reduce the big advantage of playing first.

Depending on the particular mirror match in question, they were seeing the first player won somewhere between 72% and 76% of games. In total, their playtest groups logged over 100 games just trying to determine the current state of the first turn advantage.

As announced by WizKids, the new rule was applied for offical tournaments as of Friday November 11th, 2016.

New Rule: The player who goes first in a game of Dice Masters, on their first turn, only draws 3 dice from their bag during their Clear and Draw Step, and places 1 die from their bag out of play.

http://wizkids.com/2016/11/07/dice-masters-new-rule-announce...

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So you draw 3 dice and place one of them out of play, or draw 4 dice, use 3 and place one out of play?
 
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Draw 4, place one out of play, roll the other three.
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And does the test has been remade with this new rule? did that evened the odds? Did it reduce the "first player adventage" to a 50-50 win margin?

I'm curious to see the study about it... Which team were used 100 times? Or was it different teams? 50 games starting with player A and 50 other with player B? their is a lot of variables to take in concideration here to have a "scientific" opinion..

I wonder if we will ever know..
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